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Comparing the offensive roster this year vs last year

Started by MightyGiants, April 29, 2024, 08:35:05 AM

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PSUBeirut

RB by committee is a myth in the NFL, by the way.  Rarely do RBs come close to splitting carries- there is always a bellcow.  I'm assuming Montgomery will be ours and we'll see where the other dudes fill in sporadically.

TONKA56

Quote from: PSUBeirut on April 29, 2024, 12:32:09 PMRB by committee is a myth in the NFL, by the way.  Rarely do RBs come close to splitting carries- there is always a bellcow.  I'm assuming Montgomery will be ours and we'll see where the other dudes fill in sporadically.

Assume you mean Singletary?

Trench

Quote from: LennG on April 29, 2024, 12:19:28 PMThree people to replace one, really doesn't seem like a good deal to me. Barkley did it all and now we have 3 others to replace him.

I would argue he did not do it all. For instance:

1. He was not a good blocker

2. He had trouble picking up the 1st down in short yardage situations

3. He had a lot of dropped passes

4. Many games were actually mediocre less that one monster gain

TONKA56

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 29, 2024, 12:21:25 PMThe problem with an all-in-one RB is what happens when they get hurt (which Barkley did frequently).

That's really only a problem when all of the backups stink.

AZGiantFan

Quote from: LennG on April 29, 2024, 12:19:28 PMThree people to replace one, really doesn't seem like a good deal to me. Barkley did it all and now we have 3 others to replace him.

But at 3.9 YPC he didn't do it particularly well.  This is not the Barkley of 2018-2019.
I'd rather be a disappointed optimist than a vindicated pessimist. 

Not slowing my roll

PSUBeirut

Quote from: TONKA56 on April 29, 2024, 12:49:40 PMAssume you mean Singletary?

Yes, my bad.  I had both him and Montgomery on my fantasy team last year so they sometimes jumble in my head!  =))

TONKA56

Quote from: Trench on April 29, 2024, 12:50:38 PMI would argue he did not do it all. For instance:

1. He was not a good blocker

2. He had trouble picking up the 1st down in short yardage situations

3. He had a lot of dropped passes

4. Many games were actually mediocre less that one monster gain

No sure why this "bad blocker" lable stuck. Wasn't he one of the best for the past two seasons?

TONKA56

Quote from: PSUBeirut on April 29, 2024, 12:52:29 PMYes, my bad.  I had both him and Montgomery on my fantasy team last year so they sometimes jumble in my head!  =))

Well in another thread I mentioned that I hadn't had less confidence in an offensive backfield since we had Joe Montgomery.

uconnjack8

Quote from: TONKA56 on April 29, 2024, 12:53:33 PMNo sure why this "bad blocker" lable stuck. Wasn't he one of the best for the past two seasons?

That's what I recall. 

uconnjack8

Quote from: Trench on April 29, 2024, 12:50:38 PMI would argue he did not do it all. For instance:

1. He was not a good blocker

2. He had trouble picking up the 1st down in short yardage situations

3. He had a lot of dropped passes

4. Many games were actually mediocre less that one monster gain

Would love to see his short yardage success rate.  I dont remember him getting stopped on short yardage too often.  I do remember him carrying Dalvin Tomlinson into the endzone in a playoff game and getting some important 2 put conversions over his career. 

Trench

Quote from: TONKA56 on April 29, 2024, 12:53:33 PMNo sure why this "bad blocker" lable stuck. Wasn't he one of the best for the past two seasons?

I thought he had definitely improved his blocking last couple years but a few of the games the announcer highlighted missed blocks by Barkley.

PSUBeirut

Quote from: TONKA56 on April 29, 2024, 12:54:48 PMWell in another thread I mentioned that I hadn't had less confidence in an offensive backfield since we had Joe Montgomery.

That's hard to argue.  He had his best year as a pro last year and still didn't crack 900 yards on 216 carries, with 4 TDs.  And this should be obvious to Giants fans - behind a much better OL and with stellar QB play his entire career.

Trench

Quote from: uconnjack8 on April 29, 2024, 01:00:20 PMWould love to see his short yardage success rate.  I dont remember him getting stopped on short yardage too often.  I do remember him carrying Dalvin Tomlinson into the endzone in a playoff game and getting some important 2 put conversions over his career. 

I remember him being stuffed many times in short yardage