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PFF Top 32 Guards for 2024

Started by uconnjack8, June 06, 2024, 10:50:20 AM

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uconnjack8

Three former Giants on the list and one is listed as a current Giant (kind of undermines the integrity of the article IMO)

#6 Kevin Zeitler - too bad the cap was a total mess
#23 Will Hernandez - flopped as a Giant
#31 Mark Glowinski - was surprised he made the list and the writer thinks he is still a Giant.

Notable that none of the FA signings made the list.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-guard-rankings-top-32-2024-nfl-season

Ed Vette

Take note of the teams who have two Guards on this list.
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Doc16LT56

If you want to build a competitive team, you figure out a way to keep Kevin Zeitler. You don't cut him under the guise of cap constraints and then use the money on a washed up Kyle Rudolph and Kenny Golladay.

You don't get to say on one hand we can't protect our "franchise" QB (even if that description is aspirational), and on the other hand we can't afford to pay our most reliable OL.

todge

Quote from: uconnjack8 on June 06, 2024, 10:50:20 AMThree former Giants on the list and one is listed as a current Giant (kind of undermines the integrity of the article IMO)

#6 Kevin Zeitler - too bad the cap was a total mess
#23 Will Hernandez - flopped as a Giant
#31 Mark Glowinski - was surprised he made the list and the writer thinks he is still a Giant.

Notable that none of the FA signings made the list.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-guard-rankings-top-32-2024-nfl-season
Zietler's play had noticeably declined that year. Interesting how his play improved once he wasn't offered a contract from the Giants


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Trench

Quote from: todge on June 06, 2024, 12:39:42 PMZietler's play had noticeably declined that year. Interesting how his play improved once he wasn't offered a contract from the Giants


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I believe it's all connected at the guard position. Depends upon the RBs, the other Olinemen, the staff, and mostly the abilities of the QB to make reads and decisions all influences a guard rating/eye test stuff

Philosophers

Same thing with safeties.  Talent does not better on Giants due to some factor.

AZGiantFan

Quote from: Ed Vette on June 06, 2024, 11:06:44 AMTake note of the teams who have two Guards on this list.

Considering the Giants have 3 guys on the list who aren't with them anymore, it validates the point that the problem has been the Giants, not the players.
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Jclayton92

Quote from: AZGiantFan on June 06, 2024, 03:46:45 PMConsidering the Giants have 3 guys on the list who aren't with them anymore, it validates the point that the problem has been the Giants, not the players.
This. There are so many examples of guys being "trash" or not good Olinemen just to leave and play great elsewhere. Even a few udfa Olinemen that are playing great, it's wild.

MightyGiants

Quote from: uconnjack8 on June 06, 2024, 10:50:20 AMThree former Giants on the list and one is listed as a current Giant (kind of undermines the integrity of the article IMO)

#6 Kevin Zeitler - too bad the cap was a total mess
#23 Will Hernandez - flopped as a Giant
#31 Mark Glowinski - was surprised he made the list and the writer thinks he is still a Giant.

Notable that none of the FA signings made the list.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-guard-rankings-top-32-2024-nfl-season


I will say this about Zeitler: He showed signs with the Giants that he was suffering from age-related decline. With older veterans, you keep an eye out for the pattern where they start the season strong but fade toward the end of the season. It seems that the struggles Zeitler suffered involved playing O-line with NYG rather than his own limitations.
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