Big Blue Huddle

At the 13:00 (approx) mark, Mike Lombardi starts his weekly rant about Joe Schoen and the Giants.  I will confess, I sort of agreed with Mike's comment of where he talked about how if he was GM he would be telling his people to stop hanging out in my office and go do some work.  He also had an interesting observation (I don't recall seeing it) about how Joe Schoen would be looking at his phone while watching tape rather than removing all distractions and studying tape.

This getting picky and absurd
Really????

Mike needs to take a vacation

So many conclusions and opinions are drawn from 42 minutes of television each week.

I'm finding the concerns drawn from Hard Knocks quite comical.

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on July 19, 2024, 08:36:50 AMSo many conclusions and opinions are drawn from 42 minutes of television each week.

I'm finding the concerns drawn from Hard Knocks quite comical.

I wondered why you were so amused by those who have the ability to learn from the show (even in ways HKs and NYG probably didn't intend or realize were possible).   I think part of the difference in opinions comes from the perspective of where you are watching the show.  Mike Lombardi comes from the perspective of having been there and done that.  So he knows what he is looking at and what he should and shouldn't be seeing.   I have read multiple books written by GMs, listened to many GMs via podcasts, and read books on the draft and how NFL teams work during the offseason.  So, while I am nowhere near Mike Lombardi, I have some idea of what I should and shouldn't be seeing.

That said, while I think Mike is a bit off on some of his points (for example, he didn't listen to Joe Schoen on the HK podcast where he explains some of the things that happened that didn't make the show), I think in many other cases the points Mike is making are pretty much spot on, especially in terms of leadership and team building.

I thought one interesting point Mike and Femi raised-  Does John Mara look like an owner who is happy with how the team is doing (at least during the part of the offseason we have seen so far)?

Quote from: MightyGiants on July 19, 2024, 08:57:23 AMI wondered why you were so amused by those who have the ability to learn from the show (even in ways HKs and NYG probably didn't intend or realize were possible).   I think part of the difference in opinions comes from the perspective of where you are watching the show.  Mike Lombardi comes from the perspective of having been there and done that.  So he knows what he is looking at and what he should and shouldn't be seeing.   I have read multiple books written by GMs, listened to many GMs via podcasts, and read books on the draft and how NFL teams work during the offseason.  So, while I am nowhere near Mike Lombardi, I have some idea of what I should and shouldn't be seeing.

That said, while I think Mike is a bit off on some of his points (for example, he didn't listen to Joe Schoen on the HK podcast where he explains some of the things that happened that didn't make the show), I think in many other cases the points Mike is making are pretty much spot on, especially in terms of leadership and team building.

How condescending.

As I said, there's a lot of opinion and conclusion drawn from 42 minutes of Television.

The show wants drama.  If there is none, the fans of the show will create it even if it's not there.  Therefore, read every facial expression, every suspect gaze, every bit of body language and speculate away.  Be entertained.

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on July 19, 2024, 09:17:43 AMHow condescending.

As I said, there's a lot of opinion and consolation drawn from 42 minutes of Television.

Wait a second, you literally mocked me and others by calling my commentary "comical," and you are trying to turn this around and paint me as "condescending" with my restrained reply???? 

Perhaps you would get what you perceive as less "condescending" responses if you weren't mocking others.  I have learned quite a bit, but I have an eye for detail, and I am pretty intuitive when filling in missing pieces.  Plus, I watched the show twice because I found that I missed quite a bit the first go around.


So I couldn't disagree with you more strongly (and frankly, it pissed me off a bit) you characterizing my observations from the show as comical. 

Quote from: MightyGiants on July 19, 2024, 09:23:18 AMWait a second, you literally mocked me and others by calling my commentary "comical," and you are trying to turn this around and paint me as "condescending" with my restrained reply???? 

Perhaps you would get what you perceive as less "condescending" responses if you weren't mocking others.  I have learned quite a bit, but I have an eye for detail, and I am pretty intuitive when filling in missing pieces.  Plus, I watched the show twice because I found that I missed quite a bit the first go around.


So I couldn't disagree with you more strongly (and frankly, it pissed me off a bit) you characterizing my observations from the show as comical. 

It wasn't aimed at you alone, Rich. It's everyone. Every talking head that seems to know better, every fan espousing something that it based on 42 mins of television a week.

If you took it like a personal jibe, that's on you. You weren't quoted or tagged in.

We've disagreed often enough over many years to know I quote/direct my point to you.

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on July 19, 2024, 09:26:37 AMIt wasn't aimed at you alone, Rich. It's everyone. Every talking head that seems to know better, every fan espousing something that it based on 42 mins of television a week.

If you took it like a personal jibe, that's on you. You weren't quoted or tagged in.

We've disagreed often enough over many years to know I quote/direct my point to you.

So you were not mocking my ability to glean information from the show as "comical"?

Quote from: MightyGiants on July 19, 2024, 09:45:57 AMSo you were not mocking my ability to glean information from the show as "comical"?

You directly - no.

Everyone who's up in arms about what they see on 42 mins of TV - yes, I find it laughable.

I won't repeat myself again.

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on July 19, 2024, 09:50:47 AMYou directly - no.

Everyone who's up in arms about what they see on 42 mins of TV - yes, I find it laughable.

I won't repeat myself again.

Clearly, I learned a lot more from the 3 episodes of 42 minutes each, than you believe is possible.  So the difference in opinion is that I believe there is a great deal that can be learned from seeing what goes on inside 1925 Giants Way, and you believe it's just entertainment and nothing or very little can be gleaned from the show.   Is that a more respectful (as well as accurate) description of our differing opinions?