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I was against any move to draft Joe Milton, the rookie QB from Tennessee.  Why?  24 years old with a howitzer of an arm but a very unaccurate passer.  I used to say he cannot hit the sky if he wanted.  That said, he displayed some very positive traits in New England's preseason camp.  Would it be worth it for the Giants to trade for him and try to develop him as an heir apparent to DJ so they can continue to use high draft picks for other positions or if DJ should fail this season, use a presumably high draft pick on a rookie QB in 2025?  I have to think the Pats would accept something like a 4th or 5th round pick for him given that they seem to be pleased with Drake Maye's early development.  Just curious.

How much are you assessing Milton on early training camp and the first PS game and how much on what he did after that?

Accuracy can be fixed if the QB is coachable out of bad habits. It's no secret here that I love Drake Maye, but I would still sit him for at least part of this season. His grades weren't much better than Milton's. Maye tends to have flutter feet as he drifts into the pass rush and often is off his base. He still makes a few WTF throws. He's clearly a better prospect than Milton but it remains to be seen if Milton can be reigned in. I'm almost certain that Maye's issues will be corrected. However, Bo Nix may turn out to be better than both of them.

Milton is a high-risk, high-reward player and for a 5th-6th rounder, I'd take him in a heartbeat. Most likely however, he becomes the Dave Kingman of QB's.   

Quote from: Ed Vette on August 29, 2024, 10:51:23 AMAccuracy can be fixed if the QB is coachable out of bad habits. It's no secret here that I love Drake Maye, but I would still sit him for at least part of this season. His grades weren't much better than Milton's. Maye tends to have flutter feet as he drifts into the pass rush and often is off his base. He still makes a few WTF throws. He's clearly a better prospect than Milton but it remains to be seen if Milton can be reigned in. I'm almost certain that Maye's issues will be corrected. However, Bo Nix may turn out to be better than both of them.

Milton is a high-risk, high-reward player and for a 5th-6th rounder, I'd take him in a heartbeat. Most likely however, he becomes the Dave Kingman of QB's.   

Maye didn't win the starting job, so he will be sitting at least for the start of the season

Quote from: Ed Vette on August 29, 2024, 10:51:23 AMAccuracy can be fixed if the QB is coachable out of bad habits. It's no secret here that I love Drake Maye, but I would still sit him for at least part of this season. His grades weren't much better than Milton's. Maye tends to have flutter feet as he drifts into the pass rush and often is off his base. He still makes a few WTF throws. He's clearly a better prospect than Milton but it remains to be seen if Milton can be reigned in. I'm almost certain that Maye's issues will be corrected. However, Bo Nix may turn out to be better than both of them.

Milton is a high-risk, high-reward player and for a 5th-6th rounder, I'd take him in a heartbeat. Most likely however, he becomes the Dave Kingman of QB's.   

I don't think accuracy can be fixed. You can increase a quarterback's completion percentage through play calling, but accuracy is something you have or don't have.

No! This is a final decision year for DJ and, if as many expect, it becomes his last, let's look to the 2025 Draft without clouding the issue any more than necessary.

Cheers!

Quote from: Painter on August 29, 2024, 11:51:56 AMNo! This is a final decision year for DJ and, if as many expect, it becomes his last, let's look to the 2025 Draft without clouding the issue any more than necessary.

Cheers!

I was thinking of Milton being groomed as a backup.

Pass.

I'm tired of watching bad QBs play and trying to mold them.

Quote from: JT39 on August 29, 2024, 12:57:41 PMPass.

I'm tired of watching bad QBs play and trying to mold them.

Kinda hard to call someone bad (or bad) that hasn't taken a single snap in the regular season

Quote from: Painter on August 29, 2024, 11:51:56 AMNo! This is a final decision year for DJ and, if as many expect, it becomes his last, let's look to the 2025 Draft without clouding the issue any more than necessary.

Cheers!

100% spot on with this take. We have to see once and for all what we have with Jones. Stable oline, #1 Wr, complimentary other wrs... now is the time, hopefully he can stay healthy so we can see what is there. If not we go into 2025 with a solid oline, weapons, and a qb for daboll to groom. It's either Jones takes off or we find a new franchise leader. Great take.

Quote from: Ed Vette on August 29, 2024, 12:18:33 PMI was thinking of Milton being groomed as a backup.

I assumed that you were, but a word like "groomed" too often agitates at a time when we need calm, clear-headed focus. 

Cheers!

Quote from: MrGap92 on August 29, 2024, 01:09:33 PMKinda hard to call someone bad (or bad) that hasn't taken a single snap in the regular season

He's not great. Had the most physically gifted arm in the draft at QB but was only good in the SEC for most games.   Far worse than that against Tennessee's better opponents. He is a project, hence the 6th Round pick. New England knows that. If they could get a draft choice for him right now they might take it, but he is a long way from being NFL ready.  Some think he may never be.   

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