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Ranaan on how Hyatt became the forgotten man

Started by MightyGiants, September 20, 2024, 11:26:59 AM

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Trench

Thanks Rich for finding this. The situation with Hyatt is most concerning as we saw he was dynamic at times last season and to fall off the face of the earth is just bizarre. It's one of my most concerning things about Daboll.

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Quote from: Trench on September 20, 2024, 11:29:12 AMThanks Rich for finding this. The situation with Hyatt is most concerning as we saw he was dynamic at times last season and to fall off the face of the earth is just bizarre. It's one of my most concerning things about Daboll.

I was listening to Bobby Skinner and Justin, wondering the same thing.  Something happened in camp that turned Hyatt from the front-runner for WR 3 to the forgotten man.  Now we know.

I wonder if this is an issue of a coach mismanaging a young player's development or another drafting failure by Joe Schoen and company.
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EDjohnst1981

The guy has talent for certain spots. The roster is light on talent.

I don't get why he's not being used.

Trench

Here is the part that concerns me and I'm not trying to pick on Daboll but on one hand he goes to a rookie during a game to ask what plays he wants called and on the other point he puts a 2 year guy like Hyatt in his doghouse for expressing his frustrations.

It's not a good look for our head coach. Let's hope Hyatt is featured this week!

Philosophers

In every interview he sounds mature, humble and hungry to out in the work.  This is on Daboll in my opinion.  Fast, quick and great hands.  Play this guy for God's sake.

ozzie

Some rumors on other sites say that Daboll may be on the brink of losing the locker room. At this point it's just rumor, but a lot of times, where there's smoke, there's fire.
Let's hope Daboll can keep things together because I have a feeling the season is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.
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Uncle Mickey

Slayton was benched year 1 of Daboll. Daboll is tough on his WRs. He demands certain things and high level execution on route running within the play scheme. I don't think Hyatt is done quite yet.

Uncle Mickey

Quote from: ozzie on September 20, 2024, 11:57:10 AMSome rumors on other sites say that Daboll may be on the brink of losing the locker room. At this point it's just rumor, but a lot of times, where there's smoke, there's fire.
Let's hope Daboll can keep things together because I have a feeling the season is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

Ranaan often is a sh-t stirrer. I don't buy that. They played hard week 2. Bowen's defense was the main culprit.

MrGap92

I think he should play more, but I also think he is our 4th best WR.

Trench

Quote from: MrGap92 on September 20, 2024, 12:50:15 PMI think he should play more, but I also think he is our 4th best WR.

I'd argue with that

AZGiantFan

Quote from: Trench on September 20, 2024, 11:29:12 AMThanks Rich for finding this. The situation with Hyatt is most concerning as we saw he was dynamic at times last season and to fall off the face of the earth is just bizarre. It's one of my most concerning things about Daboll.


IMO, Daboll doesn't have a clue how to use a guy with Hyatt's talents.  He's very fast and he has excellent hands.  He's NOT shifty or elusive.  That's Nabers and Wandale but it's not Hyatt.  But last year most of the plays targeting Hyatt were the kinds of plays that call for elusiveness.

As to Hyatt's frustration, in my other sport, futbol, a key attribute of a coach or manager is called man management.  Something else Daboll hasn't shown much ability at.  For me, a prime example of this lack was Nabers' so called blow-up, last game.  He made a bad play and was supremely pissed at himself.  A good man manager knows if the player needs a comforting word, a 'boot up the bum', or just to be left alone.  But it seemed apparent that Nabers didn't need Daboll in his face.

Daboll strikes me as a one-size-fits-all guy.  He uses Hyatt as if he had Wandale's, or even Toney's skills.  He doesn't seem attuned to Naber's psychology.  Another reason 2022, and particularly the COTY, was so damaging is that, IMO, it instilled a layer or arrogance in Daboll.  I don't see him as being a long-term Giants' HC.
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MrGap92

Quote from: Trench on September 20, 2024, 12:58:34 PMI'd argue with that

That's fair, I respect it if others disagree. Nabers has been dynamic out the gate, Slayton has been our best WR for years, Wandale I can see the strongest argument against, but he has been solid, and better now fully healthy, and is more well rounded than Hyatt in my opinion.

That is just what I think. I'm open to discuss and see what others think though. No one is wrong and im sure others here have valuable insight that I may not.

ralphpal1

Then why did they want to draft Hyatt in the second round ?
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