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QuoteESPN's Jordan Raanan reports that several Giants players are beginning to lose faith in Daboll and fear that he will lose the locker room entirely if the team reaches 0-4.

"I've spoken to guys over the past few days," Raanan said on the Breaking Big Blue podcast, "and some of them — not all of them — have said it's starting to get shaky in there. The confidence in Brian Daboll is hanging by a thread.

"Their trust in him is waning."

Publicly, Giants players have presented a very different narrative but there have also been some red flags.

All-Pro nose tackle Dexter Lawrence took very uncharacteristic aim at fans following a Week 1 loss to the Minnesota Vikings, saying he didn't respect their booing. There was also a tense exchange between Raanan and linebacker Kayvon Thibodeaux after the Washington loss, but that was quickly resolved in a lighthearted way.

Then, of course, there was Daboll angrily staring down New York Daily News reporter Pat Leonard following a question about his job security.

"This is about as tenuous as I've seen the locker room since 2017 when things fell apart on Ben McAdoo," Raanan said. "This one here has the potential to go in the wrong direction if this gets much worse."

Raanan adds that there are players in the locker room who refute the failing confidence in Daboll but "more than one or two" see things headed down an ugly road.

Vegas shares similar expectations as many sportsbooks currently list Daboll as the odds-on favorite to be the first coach fired this season (+150, 40% implied probability).

https://giantswire.usatoday.com/2024/09/20/some-new-york-giants-players-beginning-lose-faith-brian-daboll/

Self fulfilling prophecy. He's a weasel. Two games and he's backstabbing Daboll. Let's get this to spread through the locker room. Weasel.

If true, I wouldn't blame them at all.

Why would any coach come here seriously? The guy won a playoff game with Daniel Jones, you think the next coach is going to here if we run off a coach of the year in 3 years?

Don't get me wrong I want a new guy but still.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on September 20, 2024, 08:31:42 PMWhy would any coach come here seriously? The guy won a playoff game with Daniel Jones, you think the next coach is going to here if we run off a coach of the year in 3 years?

Don't get me wrong I want a new guy but still.

Because they want a paycheck and a chance to prove they can win as a head coach.

The first sentence is odd. Why 0-4 instead of 0-5 or 0-3? Seems like a strangely precise number around which to be predicting "losing the locker room."

My guess is he got this info from vets who have played at other teams before and have seen it happen.  Experience lets you know when something is brewing before it is openly obvious.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on September 20, 2024, 08:35:45 PMThe first sentence is odd. Why 0-4 instead of 0-5 or 0-3? Seems like a strangely precise number around which to be predicting "losing the locker room."

Have heard a few people over the years refer to "1/4 of the season".  Last game in September.

Quote from: coggs on September 20, 2024, 08:45:42 PMHave heard a few people over the year refer to "1/4 of the season".  Last game in September.

I see. Makes sense I guess.

Quote from: coggs on September 20, 2024, 08:34:11 PMBecause they want a paycheck and a chance to prove they can win as a head coach.

I think we'd have to have the 1st pick to really entice anyone of value other than a retread.

Quote from: Ed Vette on September 20, 2024, 06:56:32 PMSelf fulfilling prophecy. He's a weasel. Two games and he's backstabbing Daboll. Let's get this to spread through the locker room. Weasel.

Ed: I can think of other, more descriptive, words to call him instead of "weasel." 

Quote from: Bob In PA on September 21, 2024, 07:49:55 AMEd: I can think of other, more descriptive, words to call him instead of "weasel." 

Such as?

I feel like celebrity went to Daboll's head.

I still can't get some of the stuff I saw in Hard Knocks out of my mind. The way he was almost fully reclined on the sofa with his feet up in highly critical meetings about the roster, the way he didn't have any idea what type of sack production a $30mm/yr player they had been talking to the Panthers about for months has had, etc. Just seemed extremely casual and lackadaisical to me on a number of occasions. Hard to get that out of my mind when I see how his team has started out this year.... again.

I blame the reporter. If all the reporters keep quiet we can continue losing in peace.