Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: Trench on September 28, 2024, 10:34:46 PMand Theo if he were on KC would be lighting it up and that's a fact!

So Travis Kelce, a first-ballot HOFer, is not doing much in K.C. this year, yet Theo Johnson, a mid-tier rookie would be "lighting it up". How is that a fact?

Quote from: Gmo11 on October 03, 2024, 09:29:44 AMI just don't know what some expect this offense to do when they are so limited at QB.  Mike McDaniel has gone from super genius unbelievably creative offensive mastermind to bumbling idiot simply due to Tua's concussion.  That was one of the best offenses in the league last year in Miami and they can't score 10 points without Tua in the lineup.  Is that because McDaniel also is concussed and forgot how to coach, or is it maybe that there's not a lot of QBs in the league capable of running that offense the way it's designed to be run so Tyler Huntley and Skyler Thompson are going to torpedo everything they're trying to do even with Waddle and Hill as the WRs?  Daboll is out here trying to run his offense with a more expensive Skyler Thompson.  This is how it's going to look.

You don't have one shred of evidence that Daboll has to run a high school offense because his QB stinks so bad. He has never stated why he has this offense. So you can offer your opinion. But please if you would ,stop offering your opinions as facts.

Daboll did answer the question as to why the Giants don't throw the ball down the field. He stated that two high deep safeties are limiting the Giants to short and intermediate passes

If the Giants think Jones stinks so bad, then he would have been benched in favor of Lock
or DeVito. Instead Daboll has praised Jones with the "locked in" comments as well as previous ones alluding to Jones being the smartest QB he's ever been around.

I would suggest the Giants are struggling to score because: they are dead last in rushing yardage; they have TEs that are used only for blocking and lastly, Daboll is ultra conservative coach by nature.

I think the "expensive version of Skyler Thompson " is the least of Daboll's worries. That's my opinion ... not a fact.


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If Theo is so good, I have two questions:


(1) Why did no GM including ours want him in the first two days of the draft (ie first three rounds)?

(2) Why was he not very productive at the college level?

Quote from: todge on October 03, 2024, 06:09:54 PMYou don't have one shred of evidence that Daboll has to run a high school offense because his QB stinks so bad. He has never stated why he has this offense. So you can offer your opinion. But please if you would ,stop offering your opinions as facts.

Daboll did answer the question as to why the Giants don't throw the ball down the field. He stated that two high deep safeties are limiting the Giants to short and intermediate passes

If the Giants think Jones stinks so bad, then he would have been benched in favor of Lock
or DeVito. Instead Daboll has praised Jones with the "locked in" comments as well as previous ones alluding to Jones being the smartest QB he's ever been around.

I would suggest the Giants are struggling to score because: they are dead last in rushing yardage; they have TEs that are used only for blocking and lastly, Daboll is ultra conservative coach by nature.

I think the "expensive version of Skyler Thompson " is the least of Daboll's worries. That's my opinion ... not a fact.


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It's definitely not a fact.  We can agree on that.  Just like we can agree that everything I said was quite clearly my opinion since as you may be aware, I'm not a member of the coaching staff.  So any person who says anything about any aspect of the team on this particular board or any other board are giving their opinions.  That's kind of the point of all this. 

As to Jones...what is Daboll supposed to say?  We'd be a top 5 offense if the QB could throw the ball 30 yards down the field accurately and recognize coverages?  What good does that do?  He's gonna cover for his guys because he's a good coach.  And when he replaces Jones next season, IN MY OPINION, we'll see what this offense is actually capable of doing.

Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 03, 2024, 03:59:11 PMSo Travis Kelce, a first-ballot HOFer, is not doing much in K.C. this year, yet Theo Johnson, a mid-tier rookie would be "lighting it up". How is that a fact?

Patrick Mahomes.

Quote from: Trench on Today at 12:50:38 AMPatrick Mahomes.

You do realize Kelce has Mahomes, right? And with Mahomes, Kelce - who is 10,000x better than Theo - has 0 TDs this year. And he's averaging less than 4 catches and less than 40 yards a game.

Do you consider that "lighting it up"? Do you really think Theo is better than Kelce?

C'mon man. I know people are frustrated with the team, but nonsense like this won't help.

Quote from: Stringer Bell on Today at 07:32:35 AMYou do realize Kelce has Mahomes, right? And with Mahomes, Kelce - who is 10,000x better than Theo - has 0 TDs this year. And he's averaging less than 4 catches and less than 40 yards a game.

Do you consider that "lighting it up"? Do you really think Theo is better than Kelce?

C'mon man. I know people are frustrated with the team, but nonsense like this won't help.

I NEVER said he was better than Kelce so please don't put words in my mouth. I said I believe he would light it up because of Mahomes and because of the kids skill set. Nothing more. Kelce may be underperforming but he will be there in the end

Quote from: todge on October 03, 2024, 06:09:54 PMYou don't have one shred of evidence that Daboll has to run a high school offense because his QB stinks so bad. He has never stated why he has this offense. So you can offer your opinion. But please if you would ,stop offering your opinions as facts.

Daboll did answer the question as to why the Giants don't throw the ball down the field. He stated that two high deep safeties are limiting the Giants to short and intermediate passes

If the Giants think Jones stinks so bad, then he would have been benched in favor of Lock
or DeVito. Instead Daboll has praised Jones with the "locked in" comments as well as previous ones alluding to Jones being the smartest QB he's ever been around.

I would suggest the Giants are struggling to score because: they are dead last in rushing yardage; they have TEs that are used only for blocking and lastly, Daboll is ultra conservative coach by nature.

I think the "expensive version of Skyler Thompson " is the least of Daboll's worries. That's my opinion ... not a fact.


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That's not an accurate statement.

Daboll needs a QB to reach the top of the fridge. None of them can but Jones is the tallest midget so he has the best chance.

I don't know why you and others point to Daboll's recent statements about Jones as proof they're sold on him. Coaches don't throw their QBs under the bus in public. It's called respect. Jones is not a difference-maker in leading this team to wins.