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Quote from: TDToomer on October 03, 2024, 03:37:24 PMBut what you are saying is that it would have been OK to bench Eli in 2017 had his consecutive streak not existed and you cannot run a successful team this way. You have to make hard decisions for the good of the team and 11 games into the 2017 season at 2-9 any team would have considered benching their QB.

With all the respect in the world for you, that is not what I am attempting to articulate.

At the time, I was 100% the Giants are Eli's team and he is the General leading them into battle. The Iron-Man streak, in and of itself, is not the end-all of end-alls, as I probably am making it sound like. It is the fact he was the Giants' leader, two-time Super Bowl MVP and it was his team. My opinion was that it wasn't his time to give up the reins just yet. The fact he had led the team for 13+ consecutive years without missing a game was testimony to not only his durability but everything about who he was as a leader for the Giants.

That's something that should never be easily dismissed as that fateful day demonstrated it to be.

Peace!

Quote from: bamagiantfan on October 02, 2024, 08:01:47 PMI think a lot of teams are re-thinking whether they are asking too much from their QBs early as they watch Mayfield, Darnold, Love, and Geno Smith looking every bit like the players everyone thought they would be when they were drafted. The Rams traded picks and Goff for Stafford to win a Superbowl and got it right initially, but I wonder if they wish Goff was still in LA NOW.

Howie Long said on FOX pregame that he used to think where a QB went had 50% to do with his success. Then he said he now thinks it might be 90%. There is some truth to that. The right fit matters. I truly believe now that Geno Smith had a limited upside as the NY QB.

Daniel Jones also has a limited upside. I also think he will be a successful QB in this league somewhere else. He is trying to follow a NY legend here. He will never meet expectations and had to work through injuries the way Mayfield and Smith did early. Just keep working young man.

If you want to see DJ career post NYG just look up Dave Brown.  Couple of years as a backup and gone from the league.  Teams will always be looking to replace him no matter what string he is.

DJ is not overwhelmed by the position, just undertalented.

Quote from: kartanoman on October 03, 2024, 05:33:34 PMWith all the respect in the world for you, that is not what I am attempting to articulate.

At the time, I was 100% the Giants are Eli's team and he is the General leading them into battle. The Iron-Man streak, in and of itself, is not the end-all of end-alls, as I probably am making it sound like. It is the fact he was the Giants' leader, two-time Super Bowl MVP and it was his team. My opinion was that it wasn't his time to give up the reins just yet. The fact he had led the team for 13+ consecutive years without missing a game was testimony to not only his durability but everything about who he was as a leader for the Giants.

That's something that should never be easily dismissed as that fateful day demonstrated it to be.

Peace!

And Phil should have never been benched for Hoss to start the 91 season. To steal your quote, Giants' leader, Super Bowl MVP and it was his team. It happened and it will happen again to the great ones. Didn't the Broncos benched Payton Manning for Brock Osweiler halfway trough a Super Bowl winning season.

Quote from: TDToomer on October 04, 2024, 09:21:55 AMAnd Phil should have never been benched for Hoss to start the 91 season. To steal your quote, Giants' leader, Super Bowl MVP and it was his team. It happened and it will happen again to the great ones. Didn't the Broncos benched Payton Manning for Brock Osweiler halfway trough a Super Bowl winning season.

No one is saying it shouldn't have happened.

We're saying they should have done it differently than they did.