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Giants O & D Rankings

Scoring O: 17.8 PPG (27th)
EPA/Play: -.048 (22nd)
Passing O: 218.2 YPG (12th)
Rushing O: 103.2 YPG (24th)

Scoring D: 20.8 PPG (11th)
EPA/Play: -.007 (17th)
Passing D: 200.6 YPG (15th)
Rushing D: 115.4 YPG (12th)
8:52 AM · Oct 7, 2024
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https://x.com/TalkinGiants/status/1843273133090033908

As context our opponents are a collective 16-9 W-L so a 2-3 record and these stats suggest we are in the ballpark of league average but need a more consistent running game. The D will be tested by the Bengals O next week with Burrow and his WR on fire but the O will have an opportunity against a fragile D so we might see the O and D ranking gap narrow.

Quote from: londonblue on October 07, 2024, 09:10:19 AMAs context our opponents are a collective 16-9 W-L so a 2-3 record and these stats suggest we are in the ballpark of league average but need a more consistent running game. The D will be tested by the Bengals O next week with Burrow and his WR on fire but the O will have an opportunity against a fragile D so we might see the O and D ranking gap narrow.

I watched a bit of that Ravens/Bengals game.  If the Bengal's DBs don't get healthy this week, the Giants offense could feast

https://x.com/JustinPenik/status/1843279460180918665

Quote from: MightyGiants on October 07, 2024, 09:21:30 AMI watched a bit of that Ravens/Bengals game.  If the Bengal's DBs don't get healthy this week, the Giants offense could feast

Rich: I watched all of it (because they're our next opponent).

The bad news: Giants aren't great at home in prime time.

The good news: yesterday's events will certainly buoy and inspire anyone on the team who might have been disconcerted after losing a key divisional game in which they played up to (or as well as) a team that has superior  personnel (in general).

Bob

Quote from: Bob In PA on October 07, 2024, 10:44:29 AMRich: I watched all of it (because they're our next opponent).

The bad news: Giants aren't great at home in prime time.

The good news: yesterday's events will certainly buoy and inspire anyone on the team who might have been disconcerted after losing a key divisional game in which they played up to (or as well as) a team that has superior  personnel (in general).

Bob

The better news:

The Giants have NEVER lost to the Bengals at home. However, every one of these games were close (i.e. decided by three points or less).

Let the trend continue.

Peace!

Quote from: londonblue on October 07, 2024, 09:10:19 AMAs context our opponents are a collective 16-9 W-L so a 2-3 record and these stats suggest we are in the ballpark of league average but need a more consistent running game. The D will be tested by the Bengals O next week with Burrow and his WR on fire but the O will have an opportunity against a fragile D so we might see the O and D ranking gap narrow.

Funny thing with that record of the opponents is that most saw the 1st two games as the most winnable prior to the start of the season.  Now Minnesota is 5-0 and Washington is 4-1.  Cowboys, Browns and Seahawks are a combined 7-8. 

Quote from: uconnjack8 on October 07, 2024, 10:49:41 AMFunny thing with that record of the opponents is that most saw the 1st two games as the most winnable prior to the start of the season.  Now Minnesota is 5-0 and Washington is 4-1.  Cowboys, Browns and Seahawks are a combined 7-8.

uconn: Since you obviously contemplate stuff like this, which of the following is more like what you believe:

(a) Dallas is lucky to have the record they currently enjoy (and are likely to collapse eventually).
(b) Dallas is likely take full advantage of having eked out a couple of "busted-luck" wins.

I suppose it could turn on how fast certain injured guys return to the team, especially on defense.

Bob

Doug Analytics
@Doug_Analytics
Giants opponents are, on average, throwing 0.32 seconds faster against them compared to how quickly they throw against other defenses.

Time To Throw vs Giants compared to their average vs other teams:

• MIN: -0.27s
• WAS: -0.26s
• CLE: -0.50s
• DAL: -0.14s
• SEA: -0.28s

Quote from: Bob In PA on October 07, 2024, 11:04:18 AMuconn: Since you obvious contemplate stuff like this, which of the following is more like what you believe:

(a) Dallas is lucky to have the record they currently enjoy (and are likely to collapse eventually).
(b) Dallas is likely take full advantage of having eked out a couple of "busted-luck" wins.

I suppose it could turn on how fast certain injured guys return to the team, especially on defense.

Bob

Maybe its my feelings toward Dallas, but I see option a as more likely.  When watching their games it seems like their OL has dropped a couple of levels.  They cannot run the ball almost at all.  Dak has improved over the 5 games this year, but the offense is not nearly as potent as some recent years.  Been a lot of coaching changes for that team over the last couple of years.

Quote from: uconnjack8 on October 07, 2024, 11:11:58 AMMaybe its my feelings toward Dallas, but I see option a as more likely.  When watching their games it seems like their OL has dropped a couple of levels.  They cannot run the ball almost at all.  Dak has improved over the 5 games this year, but the offense is not nearly as potent as some recent years.  Been a lot of coaching changes for that team over the last couple of years.

uconn: They were my pick this summer as the team most likely to under-perform preseason expectations set by the various soothsayers and official prognosticators.  We'll see.

Nick Falato
@nickfalato
The #Giants recorded 24 pressures against Geno Smith and the Seattle Seahawks.

Brian Burns: 6
Dexter Lawrence: 5
Kayvon Thibodeaux: 5
Elijah Chatman: 2
D.J. Davidson: 2
Azeez Ojulari: 1
Dru Phillips: 1
Tyler Nubin: 1
NACHO: 1
12:08 PM · Oct 7, 2024
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https://x.com/AlexWilsonESM/status/1843329243784339713

https://x.com/clt_ny/status/1843336971898499273

Quote from: MightyGiants on October 07, 2024, 12:13:32 PMNick Falato
@nickfalato
The #Giants recorded 24 pressures against Geno Smith and the Seattle Seahawks.

Brian Burns: 6
Dexter Lawrence: 5
Kayvon Thibodeaux: 5
Elijah Chatman: 2
D.J. Davidson: 2
Azeez Ojulari: 1
Dru Phillips: 1
Tyler Nubin: 1
NACHO: 1
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https://x.com/AlexWilsonESM/status/1843329243784339713

Thibs was the cause of one of Davidson's sacks as well.  It won't show up in a stat sheet, but Geno moved to avoid Thibs and moved right toward Davidson.  Good team defense.

Maybe just maybe 2 seasons and 5 games was premature to call Thibs a bust or a wasted pick?