Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: WheresDayne on October 17, 2024, 11:32:58 AMSecond, he's just good enough to win a few meaningless games, putting us further out of reach of the top draftees.
But wish what you may   

This a good point; however, I'm not sure it's true.  If the Giants start a backup QB against Cinci, I think they win.  Last year, Devito won more games than Jones, costing us a chance to draft J. Daniels.  Ironically, starting DJ may give us our best chance to draft his replacement; however, the injury clause is a "Giant" concern. 

After 9 pages I am going to answer OP:

No we cannot agree

Quote from: uconnjack8 on October 17, 2024, 02:40:13 PMAfter 9 pages I am going to answer OP:

No we cannot agree

I can't believe a thread with a vague click bait title went this long. I cannot stand thread titles like this. It's a cheap way to force us to read the OP since you don't know what it's about.

But carry on. That's they way it is here.

Quote from: TDToomer on October 17, 2024, 04:47:12 PMI can't believe a thread with a vague click bait title went this long. I cannot stand thread titles like this. It's a cheap way to force us to read the OP since you don't know what it's about.

But carry on. That's they way it is here.

I guess we can put you down for a disagree?

Quote from: TDToomer on October 17, 2024, 04:47:12 PMI can't believe a thread with a vague click bait title went this long. I cannot stand thread titles like this. It's a cheap way to force us to read the OP since you don't know what it's about.

But carry on. That's they way it is here.

But you've known what it's all about for 9 pages yet you are still in the thread.  Curious.

Quote from: sxdxca38 on October 16, 2024, 02:49:51 PM.
We need to have patience here, as time will show us if he is the future or not

SXD,

Jones has been our QB for almost five and a half seasons, a total of 65 starts to date in the NFL. The results seem pretty clear to me, but, based on the above, they apparently do not to you. Respectfully, and bearing in mind he is a $40mm AAV player, how much more time do you need in order to decide if you think Jones is the QB of the future? Do you anticipate still needing more time after this season is over?

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on Today at 05:33:40 AMSXD,

Jones has been our QB for almost five and a half seasons, a total of 65 starts to date in the NFL. The results seem pretty clear to me, but, based on the above, they apparently do not to you. Respectfully, and bearing in mind he is a $40mm AAV player, how much more time do you need in order to decide if you think Jones is the QB of the future? Do you anticipate still needing more time after this season is over?

SXD,

On further review I see that you have already answered this question, so I apologize for being repetitive in asking it again when you've already answered another poster.

So just to put a bow on this, your stance is that 76 starts - but not 65 - will be the right amount of data for you to decide if you believe Jones is the QB of the future. Is that correct?

Also, just so I understand, do you plan on viewing these final 11 starts (assuming he starts 11 more games this year) in isolation in coming to your conclusion, or do you plan on combining them with the other six and looking at 2024 holistically?

Quote from: TDToomer on October 17, 2024, 04:47:12 PMI can't believe a thread with a vague click bait title went this long. I cannot stand thread titles like this. It's a cheap way to force us to read the OP since you don't know what it's about.

But carry on. That's they way it is here.

Ok, then after reading dont reply if it bothers you that much lol

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on Today at 06:29:35 AMSXD,

On further review I see that you have already answered this question, so I apologize for being repetitive in asking it again when you've already answered another poster.

So just to put a bow on this, your stance is that 76 starts - but not 65 - will be the right amount of data for you to decide if you believe Jones is the QB of the future. Is that correct?

Also, just so I understand, do you plan on viewing these final 11 starts (assuming he starts 11 more games this year) in isolation in coming to your conclusion, or do you plan on combining them with the other six and looking at 2024 holistically?

Hi Dave,

It would be the entire 17 game season of 2024.

Quote from: AZGiantFan on October 17, 2024, 07:33:41 PMBut you've known what it's all about for 9 pages yet you are still in the thread.  Curious.

Well it keeps getting bumped to the top. The context and discussion of the thread is fine. It's just the trend of people using vague open ended questions as topic headers that is annoying.

Quote from: MrGap92 on Today at 08:19:21 AMOk, then after reading dont reply if it bothers you that much lol

That's not the point.

I think too many people think it's all about the QB. Jones is being blamed for every loss and it's not fair. There are so many variables that contribute to Ws and Ls. This team is a kicker away and a few breaks from being a winning team.

Joe Burrow has won nothing with Cincinnati. They were 1-4. Yet many would be ecstatic if he was our QB. Mahomes has six TDs and six interceptions- KC is undefeated. Dak Prescott was as good as anyone the past few years - the Cowboys stink. So go figure.

This is why I support DJ and why I refuse to believe that just changing the QB will solve all of the team's problems. The supporting cast and the coaching staff are every bit as important as the QB.


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Quote from: todge on Today at 11:25:16 AMI think too many people think it's all about the QB. Jones is being blamed for every loss and it's not fair. There are so many variables that contribute to Ws and Ls. This team is a kicker away and a few breaks from being a winning team.

Joe Burrow has won nothing with Cincinnati. They were 1-4. Yet many would be ecstatic if he was our QB. Mahomes has six TDs and six interceptions- KC is undefeated. Dak Prescott was as good as anyone the past few years - the Cowboys stink. So go figure.

This is why I support DJ and why I refuse to believe that just changing the QB will solve all of the team's problems. The supporting cast and the coaching staff are every bit as important as the QB.


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He has a supporting cast and almost singlehandedly lost the Bengals game,