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Quote from: miss86 on October 22, 2024, 09:46:09 PMNo. He gave us JJ. I will never, ever forgive him for that. NEVER!

Great point, the guy who advocated Joe Judge should take over, and then the guy that advocated Judge should groom a successor?

Quote from: Trench on October 22, 2024, 10:50:08 PMI'm with you Rich. I want someone established who knows how to command the locker room and deal with spoiled kids like our 1st round CB. BB will be in charge and players will trust.

To those who are against this, I ask how will you feel when Jerry Jones hires BB?....i know I'll feel the same way as when he hired Parcells. And he did very well there.

I would not lose a second of sleep if he went to Dallas, where he goes doesn't change my opinion, nor should it anyone else if what they say is genuine regardless of their stance.

I just can't trust a guy who sold Mara and Gettleman on Joe Judge as a HC, and failed pretty hard post-Brady despite drafting 3 QBs, and signing 2 vets. How can I trust him to select the next QB or groom a new HC after 2 seasons?

We need to move away from the old school, the past is the past, if we can't get with the times, more dark times are to be expected.

I feel we have the right guy in Daboll and Schoen. They need a chance to not be suffocated by the play of Daniel Jones.

Quote from: MrGap92 on October 23, 2024, 08:26:32 AMGreat point, the guy who advocated Joe Judge should take over, and then the guy that advocated Judge should groom a successor?

Bill Parcells advocated for Ray Handley.

Quote from: TONKA56 on October 23, 2024, 08:36:06 AMBill Parcells advocated for Ray Handley.

I never suggested bringing him in either. If anything it further proves my point, let the good coaches of years past remain exactly that, coaches in the past.

Parcells didn't help at all in Miami in the few years he was a VP.

Quote from: MrGap92 on October 23, 2024, 08:42:29 AMI never suggested bringing him in either. If anything it further proves my point, let the good coaches of years past remain exactly that, coaches in the past.

Parcells didn't help at all in Miami in the few years he was a VP.

Your logic is flawed. It's fine to have an opinion, but your justification is not sound. Just say you don't want to revisit the past and leave it at that.

Quote from: TONKA56 on October 23, 2024, 08:47:48 AMYour logic is flawed. It's fine to have an opinion, but your justification is not sound. Just say you don't want to revisit the past and leave it at that.

If you disagree, you are entitled to that, but please do not tell me how to talk. I am just as entitled to my own opinion, as you are yours. If you don't like my post, that's fine but in the same vein you have no obligation to reply.

Calling someones logic flawed and not sound, doesn't make your opinion fact and it doesn't make you right. You simply have an different opinion and that is perfectly fine.

You think its flawed, I think otherwise, it gets cold in the winter, hot in the summer, and the world goes round and round, its a beautiful thing.

 I still say, as much as I would welcome him here if he wants that record of most wins, the best fit for him is Dallas. As long as he can get along with Jerrah, there he has players both on offense and defense and could potentially produce a winner.

Quote from: LennG on October 23, 2024, 01:21:43 PMI still say, as much as I would welcome him here if he wants that record of most wins, the best fit for him is Dallas. As long as he can get along with Jerrah, there he has players both on offense and defense and could potentially produce a winner.

100% agreed, Len! However, would JJ share the spotlight with him?  If Dal wins a SB, critics just say it was because of BB.  I think Jones is desperate to prove the 90s successes were the result of his leadership, and not the HC.

I really think we missed the mark by not getting Jim Harbough when everyone knew he wanted to come back to the NFL. Big Mistake by the Giants Owner. Having said that, I would be much happier if we went with BB with a 5-year deal. At this point we need a veteran coach to turn this mess around. Tired of getting these assistant coaches with no head coaching experience. It looks like Jones is not the guy, let BB help shape our future and build a foundation. We are so out of touch and might be the 2nd worse team in the NFL right now.


As far as BBs age?



Biden was 77 when elected, Half of the US Senate is 65 years or older, tensions all around the world, global economy on a rocky path, instability of the global food chain, and environmental disasters plenty across the globe. And some of you are worried about an NFL coaches age? It's only a football team, not that serious

Let's not get into comparing politics to football.  I think we are fully aware it's not life or death for fans. 

BB was said to be poor relating to players in his last couple of years. Regardless of his age, that's not a good quality.

Whether it's just a football team or not I would prefer to get someone who is more on the up and coming rather than trying to break a record and then retire.

Quote from: uconnjack8 on October 23, 2024, 01:52:12 PMLet's not get into comparing politics to football.  I think we are fully aware it's not life or death for fans. 

BB was said to be poor relating to players in his last couple of years. Regardless of his age, that's not a good quality.

Whether it's just a football team or not I would prefer to get someone who is more on the up and coming rather than trying to break a record and then retire.

That's funny coming from you, who helped take a post about Elon Musk's business acumen into the political.  Oh well.

But I agree that I have no interest in the Giants going the BB route.  Maybe 10 years ago, but not now.

Quote from: brownelvis54 on October 23, 2024, 01:47:10 PMI really think we missed the mark by not getting Jim Harbough when everyone knew he wanted to come back to the NFL. Big Mistake by the Giants Owner. Having said that, I would be much happier if we went with BB with a 5-year deal. At this point we need a veteran coach to turn this mess around. Tired of getting these assistant coaches with no head coaching experience. It looks like Jones is not the guy, let BB help shape our future and build a foundation. We are so out of touch and might be the 2nd worse team in the NFL right now.

The Chargers are 3-3 under Harbaugh and they're completely misusing Herbert, who is now averaging 194 Y/G, posting a career low 52.6 QBR. He's on track for less than 20 TDs. Looks to me like Harbaugh is more concerned with proving his style of football can win in 2024 than maximizing the best talent on his team. That's a very, very strange direction to take that team in and I see nothing this year which makes me think the Giants missed out.

Quote from: MightyGiants on October 22, 2024, 11:13:26 AMSince Belichick was fired, I have not been one calling for him to be the head coach.  I considered him too old and how he left the Pats was less than ideal.   Still, Bill knows what it takes to win and how to create a winning culture.

The Giants need to establish a winning culture in their organization.  They need a strong head coach who will do just that.  I am aware of only two proven commodities, Bill Belichick and Mike Vrabel.

I was toying with the idea of Belichick as GM and Vrabel as HC, but that might be a case of too many chefs.   If Schoen was willing (and I assume he would be), I would fire Daboll (not his staff) and hire Bill Belichick.   I would tell him it would be a three-year deal, and part of Bill's assignment would be to prepare a successor.  I would let Bill keep the staff members he liked and replace those he didn't (I think it would be helpful for Bill at this point of his career to be given a boost in terms of having some pretty good position coaches already on the roster.

I appreciate that hiring Belichick will not solve the issue of needing a franchise QB.  Still, failing an easy answer at franchise QB, the best thing a team can do (in my opinion) is keep building a quality winning team until an opportunity to acquire a proper QB presents itself.

If this is possible to pull off the Giants should definitely do it. 

The only thing is I am expecting Schoen to be fired along with Daboll.

Quote from: AZGiantFan on October 23, 2024, 01:59:25 PMThat's funny coming from you, who helped take a post about Elon Musk's business acumen into the political.  Oh well.

But I agree that I have no interest in the Giants going the BB route.  Maybe 10 years ago, but not now.

How was my comment about Musk political?

Quote from: uconnjack8 on October 23, 2024, 03:54:00 PMHow was my comment about Musk political?

I'll respond privately.