Big Blue Huddle

Two ways to do it. With Rookie perceived potential or as they are at this point in 2024. I think the list starts with,

Dexter Lawrence
Andrew Thomas

It's those two, Burns, and Nabers. Those four are the only four who are relevant in the league. After that it's up for debate who the other six are, but none are significant in terms of the whole league.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on October 24, 2024, 09:50:50 PMIt's those two, Burns, and Nabers. Those four are the only four who are relevant in the league. After that it's up for debate who the other six are, but none are significant in terms of the whole league.

Not in terms of the league. On the team.

Quote from: Ed Vette on October 24, 2024, 10:16:26 PMNot in terms of the league. On the team.

1.Lawrence
2.Thomas
3.Nabers
4.Burns
5.Okereke
6. Banks
7. Eleumenor
8. Tracy
9. Thibodeaux
10. Nubin
11. Pinnock
12. Jones
13. Slayton
14. Van Roten
15. Robinson

Sexy Dexy
Thomas
Nabers
Burns
Okereke
McFadden
Thibs
Eleumenor
Banks
Nubin
Wandale
Tracy
Slayton
Bellinger
Pinnock

No love for Dru?

Quote from: Ed Vette on October 25, 2024, 08:23:41 AMNo love for Dru?

I forgot about him, replace Pinnock with him on mine, maybe move him up a spot or two.

I don't know that I could feel accurate in ranking them 1-15 but here is a tiered top 15:

Tier 1 (3) All-Pro ability
Dex
Andrew Thomas
Nabers (yes I am comfortable listing him with these guys with what I have seen)

Tier 2 (5) Plus players with big upside, not quite the best at their position
Okereke
Burns (subject to move up with recent performances)
Thibs
Banks
Phillips

Tier 3 (7) Solid Contributors, but not necessarily difference makers.
Slayton
Eluemunor
McFadden
Nubin
Pinnock
Tracy
Gillam

I would have had Gano instead of Gillam if he wasn't on IR.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on October 24, 2024, 10:36:22 PM1.Lawrence
2.Thomas
3.Nabers
4.Burns
5.Okereke
6. Banks
7. Eleumenor
8. Tracy
9. Thibodeaux
10. Nubin
11. Pinnock
12. Jones
13. Slayton
14. Van Roten
15. Robinson

Even if you add Dru Philips (as Ed suggest) this team runs out of above average talent fast (around 10 or 11)

#! LT
#2 Frank Gifford
#3-15

Hey it didn't say today's Giants, just rank the top 15 Giants players

Just to make all of us about how deficient the 2024 Giants are of talent, I looked at the 1986 Giants starters and put together 15 off of them.  Disregard where ranked:

1. LT
2. Harry Carson
3. Leonard Marshall
4. Mark Bavaro
5. Jim Burt
6. Carl Banks
7. Joe Morris
8. Brad Benson
9. Mark Collins
10. Phil Simms
11. Perry Williams
12. Terry Kinard
13. Billy Ard
14. Bart Oates
15. Kenny Hill

Think about how talented each player was in terms of ranking in the NFL at their position.  How many top 10s do you see?  I count 10 who were probably top 10 but more importantly all 15 are likely top 20 and rest of starters are top 25 and first 5 backups are top 35.

What does

Quote from: Philosophers on October 25, 2024, 01:36:14 PMJust to make all of us about how deficient the 2024 Giants are of talent, I looked at the 1986 Giants starters and put together 15 off of them.  Disregard where ranked:

1. LT
2. Harry Carson
3. Leonard Marshall
4. Mark Bavaro
5. Jim Burt
6. Carl Banks
7. Joe Morris
8. Brad Benson
9. Mark Collins
10. Phil Simms
11. Perry Williams
12. Terry Kinard
13. Billy Ard
14. Bart Oates
15. Kenny Hill

Think about how talented each player was in terms of ranking in the NFL at their position.  How many top 10s do you see?  I count 10 who were probably top 10 but more importantly all 15 are likely top 20 and rest of starters are top 25 and first 5 backups are top 35.

What does

How do you think that would look in the age of Free Agency and a Salary Cap?

I totally forgot about Dru. I'd put him somewhere in the 8-12 range I guess.

Quote from: Ed Vette on October 25, 2024, 01:42:03 PMHow do you think that would look in the age of Free Agency and a Salary Cap?

Pick the top 15 of the current Lions, Chiefs, etc and do the same thing.