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He sure did turn his career around. He had a couple of good years in LA and then went downhill. Maybe Dan Campbell had something to do with it.

 As much as we know, as fans and bystanders, but Campbell has really turned that entire franchise around. I would take him in a heartbeat to coach MY team.

Quote from: LennG on November 09, 2024, 11:37:03 AMAs much as we know, as fans and bystanders, but Campbell has really turned that entire franchise around. I would take him in a heartbeat to coach MY team.

I wanted him years ago but they hired the smartest guy in the room.

I suppose that the Lions have started 7-1 may be surprising to some but I'm not shocked that it's with Jared Goff behind Center given that he went 42-27 with 2 Pro Bowls in his 5 seasons with the Rams. And now after a bad first year with the Lions, he has since gone 28-14 and probably will make his 4th Pro Bowl. So, no I'm not shocked in the least.

Cheers!

Sean McVay 

The Detroit Lions. I think we forget Goff was a late addition to the trade and was a stop gap until they found a new QB. They were able to get Hendon Hooker in the 3rd round of the 2023 draft, after his ACL tear against South Carolina roughly two years ago now. Some thought Hooker's success was linked to having Jalin Hyatt and Cedric Tillman to throw to. Until recently (Tillman), it was looking like we all got that backwards as Hyatt and Tillman continued to be disappointments for the Giants and Browns, respectively.

Quote from: bamagiantfan on November 10, 2024, 07:26:00 AMThe Detroit Lions. I think we forget Goff was a late addition to the trade and was a stop gap until they found a new QB. They were able to get Hendon Hooker in the 3rd round of the 2023 draft, after his ACL tear against South Carolina roughly two years ago now. Some thought Hooker's success was linked to having Jalin Hyatt and Cedric Tillman to throw to. Until recently (Tillman), it was looking like we all got that backwards as Hyatt and Tillman continued to be disappointments for the Giants and Browns, respectively.

Hooker hasn't exactly excelled, either.  When the Lions came to Giants camp, he was the third-string quarterback and looked like a third-string quarterback.

Not shocked at Goff's current success given he went to a Super Bowl previously.  More surprised at how well the Lions have put together a really good roster. 

Maybe I am surprised he is completing 75% of his passes through half a season.  But given he has thrown for basically the same # of yards as Jones, I don't think he is throwing it deep much.

I had wanted Goff on the Giants

Guys - come on.  Look at the Lions success in drafting over the past 7 years.  Way more huge successes over that time.  Goff has been a great turnaround/success story but they have great talent everywhere plus a good HC leader and a fantastic OC in Johnson.

He was always a really good quarterback, who for whatever reason didn't get along with McVey. In his four seasons with the Rams he went to the pro bowl twice and guided them to a Super Bowl. I wish there was someone stupid enough to trade us a quarterback that good.

Goff was a 2x Pro Bowler before moving to Det. Even his two down years (2020 and 2021) were still better than average, and on par with other Pro Bowl caliber QBs; they all have a few years not equal to thier better years.  Nevertheless, his 17-game averages have been fairly consistent:

2017 (Los Angeles Rams): Averaged 4,316 yards, 32 TDs, 8 INTs, with a passer rating around 100.5.
2018 (Rams): Increased his averages to about 4,981 yards, 34 TDs, 13 INTs, and a 101.1 rating.
2019 (Rams): Averages slightly dropped to 4,922 yards, 27 TDs, 20 INTs, with an 86.5 rating.
2020 (Rams): Ended with 4,482 yards, 23 TDs, 15 INTs, and a 90.0 rating.
2021 (Detroit Lions): Posted about 3,950 yards, 23 TDs, 10 INTs, with a 91.5 rating.
2022 (Lions): Averaged 4,438 yards, 29 TDs, 7 INTs, achieving a 99.3 rating.
2023 (Lions): Averaged approximately 4,575 yards, 30 TDs, 12 INTs, with a 97.9 rating�

Goff has always been an underappreciated QB. 

Quote from: kingm56 on November 10, 2024, 12:18:07 PMGoff was a 2x Pro Bowler before moving to Det. Even his two down years (2020 and 2021) were still better than average, and on par with other Pro Bowl caliber QBs; they all have a few years not equal to thier better years.  Nevertheless, his 17-game averages have been fairly consistent:

2017 (Los Angeles Rams): Averaged 4,316 yards, 32 TDs, 8 INTs, with a passer rating around 100.5.
2018 (Rams): Increased his averages to about 4,981 yards, 34 TDs, 13 INTs, and a 101.1 rating.
2019 (Rams): Averages slightly dropped to 4,922 yards, 27 TDs, 20 INTs, with an 86.5 rating.
2020 (Rams): Ended with 4,482 yards, 23 TDs, 15 INTs, and a 90.0 rating.
2021 (Detroit Lions): Posted about 3,950 yards, 23 TDs, 10 INTs, with a 91.5 rating.
2022 (Lions): Averaged 4,438 yards, 29 TDs, 7 INTs, achieving a 99.3 rating.
2023 (Lions): Averaged approximately 4,575 yards, 30 TDs, 12 INTs, with a 97.9 rating�

Goff has always been an underappreciated QB. 

The trade showed that the entire league (otherwise the Rams would have traded him to another team making a better offer), as well as the team trading him away, didn't think highly of him.


The trade
The Lions received Goff, a third-round pick in 2021, and first-round picks in 2022 and 2023. The Rams received Stafford.

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 10, 2024, 01:32:20 PMThe trade showed that the entire league (otherwise the Rams would have traded him to another team making a better offer), as well as the team trading him away, didn't think highly of him.


The trade
The Lions received Goff, a third-round pick in 2021, and first-round picks in 2022 and 2023. The Rams received Stafford.

What does the trade have to do with my opinion, which has been consistent for years?  Also, the trade also proves the reverse.  Apparently, a team thought he was good enough to trade for, including giving up a 1st round pick.