Big Blue Huddle

This game, and the Bye which follows, should now be the end of Daniel Jones as the Giants QB- he can't read Defenses, cannot make plays with any of the consistency needed for winning football even against weaker opponents- but it won't be.

While they can't really do much worse with Lock and/or DeVito, they will instead continue to risk the chance of having to pay the $23 million injury guarantee for guy who won't be here next year no matter when, where and who they pick to replace him.

And frankly, that would have been my view even if they hadn't lost their 5th straight this Munich afternoon.

Cheers!

It won't be. John Mara will never do that to his man crush.

For those of us arguing play calling, Daboll himself just said it was "bad coaching" to do the flea flicker.

Wow, I don't know how to post the link but Pat Leonard of Daily News is calling for BOTH Schoen AND Daboll to be FIRED!

Discourse around him won't stop. If Lock is bad, it'll be "Daboll sucks! No QB could succeed with the Giants" And then get ready for "DJ could have been good if it wasn't for the Giants!"

Quote from: Trench on November 10, 2024, 01:20:51 PMWow, I don't know how to post the link but Pat Leonard of Daily News is calling for BOTH Schoen AND Daboll to be FIRED!

I just posted a new thread on this very topic

https://giantsfans.net/message_board/index.php?topic=71332.0

Quote from: Trench on November 10, 2024, 01:18:59 PMFor those of us arguing play calling, Daboll himself just said it was "bad coaching" to do the flea flicker.

Why? It was a great call. We simply have a QB who can't capitalize on this play.

Quote from: Trench on November 10, 2024, 01:18:59 PMFor those of us arguing play calling, Daboll himself just said it was "bad coaching" to do the flea flicker.

Let's be consistent: if you're going to dismiss Daboll's comments that counter your narrative as 'coach speak' (e.g., 'DJ is locked in'), then you should do the same when they support it. This is simply coach speak to protect his QB; DJ was nearly in tears after the game.

The play calling today was solid; it was the execution that sucked.

https://x.com/SNYGiants/status/1855677281081192909

Quote from: kingm56 on November 10, 2024, 01:24:39 PMLet's be consistent: if you're going to dismiss Daboll's comments that counter your narrative as 'coach speak' (e.g., 'DJ is locked in'), then you should do the same when they support it. This is simply coach speak to protect his QB; DJ was nearly in tears after the game.

The play calling today was solid; it was the execution that sucked.

Funny, I recall Daboll happily throwing DJ under the bus last week

Quote from: LennG on November 10, 2024, 01:23:14 PMWhy? It was a great call. We simply have a QB who can't capitalize on this play.

We all don't have to agree on it, but I think it's fair to question that play call on 3rd and 1 when you have a ineffective QB and an OL that has given up 16 sacks in last 4 games.

It's reasonable to think that a trick play that takes a long time to develop and requires a QB to make an accurate read + a good throw was less likely to succeed than a running play.

Quote from: madbadger on November 10, 2024, 01:14:50 PMIt won't be. John Mara will never do that to his man crush.

I don't think it's Mara's call to make anymore.

If he's going to hold Schoen and Daboll accountable for their decisions, he needs to let them make them.

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 10, 2024, 01:26:10 PMFunny, I recall Daboll happily throwing DJ under the bus last week

Pray tell, at what point his post game interview did Daboll "happily throw DJ under the bus"?  The reporters pressed him to blame DJ, and he didn't take the bait; specifically, when they pressed him multiple times if he lacked confidence in DJ throwing the ball, and he explicitly said it had nothing to do with DJ. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4JDrv4-uAQ&ab_channel=NewYorkGiants

Please tell me where he threw Jones under the bus?

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 10, 2024, 01:24:47 PMhttps://x.com/SNYGiants/status/1855677281081192909

So here we have the QB taking the blame for poor play execution and the HC taking blame for calling bad plays.

Just need Mara to chime in on his meddling and we can all be right!

Did anyone ask Jones about the flea-flicker?