Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: TDToomer on November 17, 2024, 03:19:23 PMThis is exactly the problem with the Giants and maybe some of their fans. They would rather take the bland, safe, QB prospect than the more talented one with swagger.

Didn't Johnny Manziel have tons of swagger?

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 18, 2024, 07:17:44 AMDidn't Johnny Manziel have tons of swagger?

Didn't Joe Namath have tons of swagger? Some swagger with success. Others don't. The point is you don't pick someone for their swagger. And you don't not pick them because of their swagger.

Quote from: katkavage on November 18, 2024, 07:20:40 AMDidn't Joe Namath have tons of swagger? Some swagger with success. Others don't. The point is you don't pick someone for their swagger. And you don't not pick them because of their swagger.

I don't think there is anyone not picking a QB because of their swagger.  Rather I think people are conflating swagger with outside issues and questionable behavior, which can't make it more challenging for a QB to achieve success.

Mayfield is an excellent QB so I am not sure if what the downside of his swagger is. The Browns are in QB hell again after foolishly giving up on him.

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 18, 2024, 07:23:08 AMI don't think there is anyone not picking a QB because of their swagger.  Rather I think people are conflating swagger with outside issues and questionable behavior, which can't make it more challenging for a QB to achieve success.

From what I know now, none of the top QBs have outside issues or questionable behavior.

Quote from: katkavage on November 18, 2024, 08:57:21 AMFrom what I know now, none of the top QBs have outside issues or questionable behavior.

I have heard reports about Sanders that were less than ideal

It's not really about swagger for me. I wouldn't mind our players showing more spirit on the field, as long as they're actually backing it up of course.

But in Shedeur's case he could be a total saint and his father would still be a liability, trying to "help" at every turn and trailing a media circus behind him. The guy's a weapon of mass distraction.

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 18, 2024, 08:58:39 AMI have heard reports about Sanders that were less than ideal

The smears begin and the Giants fall for them all the time.

Quote from: y_so_blu on November 18, 2024, 09:04:17 AMIt's not really about swagger for me. I wouldn't mind our players showing more spirit on the field, as long as they're actually backing it up of course.

But in Shedeur's case he could be a total saint and his father would still be a liability, trying to "help" at every turn and trailing a media circus behind him. The guy's a weapon of mass distraction.

What is Colorado's record this year? Boy Daddy is truly destroying that team. The Giants need to ignore meaningless background noise and pick the best option. Until they learn to do that they will continue to be a laughingstock franchise.

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 18, 2024, 08:58:39 AMI have heard reports about Sanders that were less than ideal

Oh yeah? Like what.

Quote from: y_so_blu on November 18, 2024, 09:04:17 AMIt's not really about swagger for me. I wouldn't mind our players showing more spirit on the field, as long as they're actually backing it up of course.

But in Shedeur's case he could be a total saint and his father would still be a liability, trying to "help" at every turn and trailing a media circus behind him. The guy's a weapon of mass distraction.

Have you considered that Deion Sanders, a Hall of Fame player and an excellent college coach, whose sons are outstanding football players and young men, might know something about the game of football and about player development, probably more than the entire current Giants Front Office combined, and wouldn't be a liability at all? Or are your preconceptions and stereotypes just too much to overcome?

Quote from: katkavage on November 18, 2024, 09:18:28 AMWhat is Colorado's record this year? Boy Daddy is truly destroying that team. The Giants need to ignore meaningless background noise and pick the best option. Until they learn to do that they will continue to be a laughingstock franchise.

It's not the Giants it's half their fanbase is stuck in the last century. That's how we end up with a nice and boring guy like Daniel Jones. 

Quote from: BlueMoshik on November 18, 2024, 09:19:55 AMOh yeah? Like what.

https://x.com/firstroundmock/status/1840190843698696445

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 18, 2024, 12:50:32 PMhttps://x.com/firstroundmock/status/1840190843698696445

LOL I thought you actually had reports on "character issues".

Thanks for that, I actually like the guy more than before. O my God, a player who shows passion and fight on the field, hates losing, and speaks his mind at pressers. God forbid the Giants should draft someone like that. They should definitely draft another robot like Daniel Jones. 

Quote from: BlueMoshik on November 18, 2024, 01:31:05 PMLOL I thought you actually had reports on "character issues".

Thanks for that, I actually like the guy more than before. O my God, a player who shows passion and fight on the field, hates losing, and speaks his mind at pressers. God forbid the Giants should draft someone like that. They should definitely draft another robot like Daniel Jones. 

There are things a rank-and-file player can do, but that's not an issue.  When a QB, who is supposed to be a team leader, does the same things, it's not a good thing.

Look, you asked for concerns, that Tweet gave you 10.   Do what those 10 issue what you will.