Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: spiderblue43 on November 19, 2024, 08:01:57 PMDave,

I agree letting Douglas go is prudent right now, but Woody simply usurped his power for Rodgers and clamoring fans, too..a de facto gm in their washed qb. Fish rots from the head and WJ is a clueless owner

All of that is certainly true, Spider.

As a side but related point, I don't know that Rodgers has the godlike power over the organization today that he did up until this awful season got underway. I suspect his power and internal status has diminished somewhat in the past three months. I think he'll be brought back, but more because the economics of cutting him don't make sense, even with him being disappointing relative to expectations/hopes.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on November 19, 2024, 08:06:09 PMAll of that is certainly true, Spider.

As a side but related point, I don't know that Rodgers has the godlike power over the organization today that he did up until this awful season got underway. I suspect his power and internal status has diminished somewhat in the past three months. I think he'll be brought back, but more because the economics of cutting him don't make sense, even with him being disappointing relative to expectations/hopes.

Good point. Results matter. And Rodgers  is done, a shell of himself. That is obvious and his cache is all but gone.

As is now reported in The Athletic:

The New York Jets fired general manager Joe Douglas on Tuesday, six weeks after the team fired coach Robert Saleh. According to multiple team sources who spoke to The Athletic about the team's inner workings, Woody Johnson suggested a more drastic move earlier in the season.

According to those sources, the day after the Jets' loss to the Denver Broncos on Sept. 29, there was a contentious meeting at the team facility. It included Johnson, Douglas, vice chairman Christopher Johnson, team president Hymie Elhai, and Ira Akselrad, an adviser to Johnson. It also included a group of coaches: Saleh, offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett, then-defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrich and special teams coordinator Brant Boyer among them.

The coaches had been called in to explain what happened with their units during the 10-9 home loss to the Broncos. During the meeting, Johnson suggested to the coaches that they bench Aaron Rodgers in favor of Tyrod Taylor because he felt Rodgers' performance was holding the team back.

The coaches and Douglas, stunned at the suggestion, talked him out of it and convinced Johnson to stay the course and that benching Rodgers, with his pedigree, four games into the season would not sit well with the locker room. The coaches also felt it would embarrass Rodgers. The idea of benching the future Hall of Famer sounded so absurd that one coach asked whether the owner was serious — multiple sources from that meeting believed he was.

Johnson was calmed that day, but that set the tone for what happened a week later. On Oct. 8, Johnson made the decision to fire Saleh without consulting his general manager (or anyone else in the organization, for that matter).

Perhaps, Woody and not Rodgers, as some folks seem to think, is the one deciding who, what, where, and when.

Cheers!

Quote from: Painter on November 19, 2024, 10:47:49 PMAs is now reported in The Athletic:

The New York Jets fired general manager Joe Douglas on Tuesday, six weeks after the team fired coach Robert Saleh. According to multiple team sources who spoke to The Athletic about the team's inner workings, Woody Johnson suggested a more drastic move earlier in the season.

According to those sources, the day after the Jets' loss to the Denver Broncos on Sept. 29, there was a contentious meeting at the team facility. It included Johnson, Douglas, vice chairman Christopher Johnson, team president Hymie Elhai, and Ira Akselrad, an adviser to Johnson. It also included a group of coaches: Saleh, offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett, then-defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrich and special teams coordinator Brant Boyer among them.

The coaches had been called in to explain what happened with their units during the 10-9 home loss to the Broncos. During the meeting, Johnson suggested to the coaches that they bench Aaron Rodgers in favor of Tyrod Taylor because he felt Rodgers' performance was holding the team back.

The coaches and Douglas, stunned at the suggestion, talked him out of it and convinced Johnson to stay the course and that benching Rodgers, with his pedigree, four games into the season would not sit well with the locker room. The coaches also felt it would embarrass Rodgers. The idea of benching the future Hall of Famer sounded so absurd that one coach asked whether the owner was serious — multiple sources from that meeting believed he was.

Johnson was calmed that day, but that set the tone for what happened a week later. On Oct. 8, Johnson made the decision to fire Saleh without consulting his general manager (or anyone else in the organization, for that matter).

Perhaps, Woody and not Rodgers, as some folks seem to think, is the one deciding who, what, where, and when.

Cheers!

It sort of falls in the "that's life" category-  When you deny the boss/owner, if you are ultimately proven wrong, the consequences tend to be much worse.