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Micheal Strahan should be the GM he has the business acumen like a John Lynch

Is John Gruden a hard no?

Guy is 61.  Good with QBs. 

Quote from: brownelvis54 on January 01, 2025, 04:39:44 PMMicheal Strahan should be the GM he has the business acumen like a John Lynch

No chance the Giants pay him as much as he is making on tv. 

Quote from: coggs on January 01, 2025, 04:59:06 PMNo chance the Giants pay him as much as he is making on tv. 

No chance he is leaving not one but two cushy jobs on 2 different networks. He's set himself up pretty nicely in his post playing career.

Quote from: TDToomer on January 01, 2025, 06:01:51 PMNo chance he is leaving not one but two cushy jobs on 2 different networks. He's set himself up pretty nicely in his post playing career.

The NFL cant afford him

Quote from: Philosophers on January 01, 2025, 04:57:28 PMIs John Gruden a hard no?

Guy is 61.  Good with QBs. 

Didn't he get caught being a racist in a leak of emails and texts?

Quote from: Jclayton92 on January 01, 2025, 09:12:17 PMDidn't he get caught being a racist in a leak of emails and texts?

Yes.

Quote from: brownelvis54 on January 01, 2025, 04:39:44 PMMicheal Strahan should be the GM he has the business acumen like a John Lynch

Just because someone played football at a high level and knows how to talk, does not mean that he has the ability to manage the team, the talent, the cap limit ......,
This kind of thinking has got the team to the miserable place it's in. If it was up to me, I would commission a proven coach and GM, like Belichick to do the due diligence and search for that able and winning GM that is so needed for this team.

Quote from: GloryDays on January 02, 2025, 05:37:48 PMJust because someone played football at a high level and knows how to talk, does not mean that he has the ability to manage the team, the talent, the cap limit ......,
This kind of thinking has got the team to the miserable place it's in. If it was up to me, I would commission a proven coach and GM, like Belichick to do the due diligence and search for that able and winning GM that is so needed for this team.

I agree. Strahan has never held any NFL job other than being a player. Zero front office experience, and he hasn't been in the league in over 15 years. The idea that he could step right in and be a successful NFL GM simply because he has been a TV success since his playing days seems bizarrely far-fetched to me.

Quote from: shadowspinner0 on December 23, 2024, 05:05:02 PMRay Agnew, Lions assistant general manager

Dawn Aponte, NFL's chief administrator of football operations

Mike Borgonzi, Chiefs assistant GM

Ian Cunningham, Chicago Bears assistant GM

Thomas Dimitroff, former Falcons GM

John Dorsey, Lions senior personnel executive

Ray Farmer, Rams senior personnel executive

Mike Greenberg, Buccaneers assistant GM

Mike Martin, Lions director of scouting advancement

Lance Newmark, Commanders assistant GM

Phil Savage, Jets interim general manager

John Spytek, Buccaneers assistant general manager

Nolan Teasley, Seahawks assistant general manager

Josh Williams, 49ers director of scouting and football operations

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Detroit Lions OC Ben Johnson

Detroit Lions DC Aaron Glenn

Browns consultant Mike Vrabel

Vikings DC Brian Flores

Bills OC Joe Brady

Panthers DC Ejiro Evero

Bucs OC Liam Coen

Steelers OC Arthur Smith

Chargers DC Jesse Minter

Commanders OC Kliff Kingsbury

Ravens OC Todd Monken

Bears interim HC Thomas Brown

Im going to be honest with you... this may be the worst list in recent history

Besides maybe Vrable I see no reason to move on from Dabs

At least we know with dabs one more terrible year he's def gone

We fire him just to fire him and get stuck with possibly our third choice of HC in an already weak list we are now in hell for an even more extended period of time

Quote from: brownelvis54 on January 01, 2025, 04:39:44 PMMicheal Strahan should be the GM he has the business acumen like a John Lynch

The "optics" would be something else, but the reality is that Michael, as far as we know from his public profile, has not advanced his formal education past his Bachelor's Degree from Texas Southern, in 1993. While the order and discipline he learned from growing up in a military family (NOTE: overseas in Germany, no less), the self-determination he exhibited to become an excellent defense end football player, a team leader and now a pop star in television, there is no question he may have picked up some of the "tools of the trade" in the world of business, and especially contracts, but it is still a considerable gap between sitting next to your hired businessman/attorney and actually being one (NOTE: not to mention a CAPABLE one!).

Now, we have to put into perspective that there are General Managers in the NFL who have business educational backgrounds with practical business experience and knowledge base/acumen to handle not just any kind of business, but that specifically geared toward the National Football League business model.

Many on this board question the business acumen of Joe Schoen, whose education consists of a Bachelor of Arts in Communications degree with experience in scouting before he was mentored in management by Brandon Beane of the Bills. Even George Young had his undergraduate degree from Bucknell, was an educator for many years and earned two graduate degrees from Johns Hopkins University and Loyola College.

But the ultimate consideration is that while Young and Schoen were groomed for a General Management role (NOTE: Young under Don Shula with Baltimore and Miami with Schoen with Beane with Buffalo). Strahan has had no practical assimilation into this type of a role and probably would not be a comfortable fit for an individual who is at his best in front of an audience with the ability to excite and entertain at a level which is arguably among the best in the business at this time.

I would recommend letting Michael be Michael and we can enjoy him biting his tongue on Fox NFL Sunday as he fights himself to not show his bias for the Giants - funny stuff!

As for the Giants and Joe Schoen, it appears he will be given the wiggle room to turn this Titanic around. Apparently, the boss doesn't believe the iceberg has been hit, just yet.

Uh, that one is a "we'll have to wait and see, fingers' crossed!"

Peace!

Here's a name to throw out there.  What about Ryan Day of OSU?  Been a head coach long enough to know org construction. Great offensive mind.  Highly successful.  Probably would leave Ohio State. 

Quote from: killarich on January 02, 2025, 06:08:25 PMIm going to be honest with you... this may be the worst list in recent history

Besides maybe Vrable I see no reason to move on from Dabs

At least we know with dabs one more terrible year he's def gone

We fire him just to fire him and get stuck with possibly our third choice of HC in an already weak list we are now in hell for an even more extended period of time

I personally think Flores will be a successful head coach in his next gig, but I realize it's basically not feasible for him to be the Giants coach given the history.

I would seriously consider him if I were the Jets. He seems like exactly what they need there.

Quote from: Philosophers on January 02, 2025, 06:38:36 PMHere's a name to throw out there.  What about Ryan Day of OSU?  Been a head coach long enough to know org construction. Great offensive mind.  Highly successful.  Probably would leave Ohio State. 

I'm not a huge fan of bringing in a college coach with no real NFL experience of note to be a first-time head coach. I understand day spent a year or two in the NFL as a QB coach, but never as a coordinator.

Simply put, the track record of making this type of move is downright terrible. And that includes names that were way more revered at the time of their head coaching NFL debut than Day is right now.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on January 02, 2025, 06:59:44 PMI'm not a huge fan of bringing in a college coach with no real NFL experience of note to be a first-time head coach. I understand day spent a year or two in the NFL as a QB coach, but never as a coordinator.

Simply put, the track record of making this type of move is downright terrible. And that includes names that were way more revered at the time of their head coaching NFL debut than Day is right now.

He seems different to me Jeff.  I understand your position.  Day has more of an NFL temperment.  Not a dictator like many college coaches.  Seems pretty professional.  College and pro are as similar as ever.  Maybe now the transition is different.