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Seems I'm not the only one thinking JJ McCarthy

Started by LennG, January 01, 2025, 08:46:42 PM

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Jclayton92

I think I like wards prospects as a pro more than JJ but he would be above Sanders imo.

Ed Vette

Like Tim said, they passed on him in the draft. But would Minnesota take a second round this year and a 2026?
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sooners56

If the Giants got Nabors and are able to get JJ a year later with a 2nd rounder or combo of draft picks and JJ turns out to be a legit QB I'd be over the moon with joy. I mean talk about a series of good fortune for the Giants and us fans!!! Too bad it would never happen like that.
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killarich

Quote from: Ed Vette on January 01, 2025, 09:56:56 PMLike Tim said, they passed on him in the draft. But would Minnesota take a second round this year and a 2026?

If we could get JJ for a second that's a no brainer

Yea he's injured and its a risk

But so is drafting a QB early in round 1 almost always a risk

uconnjack8

Would be really surprised if they are willing to part with JJ for anything less than multiple picks including at least 1 1st rounder. 


Philosophers

Quote from: sooners56 on January 01, 2025, 10:29:39 PMIf the Giants got Nabors and are able to get JJ a year later with a 2nd rounder or combo of draft picks and JJ turns out to be a legit QB I'd be over the moon with joy. I mean talk about a series of good fortune for the Giants and us fans!!! Too bad it would never happen like that.

That would be the win-win none of saw coming.

T200

Quote from: killarich on January 01, 2025, 11:44:38 PMIf we could get JJ for a second that's a no brainer

Yea he's injured and its a risk

But so is drafting a QB early in round 1 almost always a risk
So... they spent extensive time interviewing JJ and decided that he doesn't fit into their system and plans for what they want to do to move this team forward and be competitive. A year (and knee injury) later, after playing a total of ZERO regular season snaps, you're suggesting giving up draft capital from this year and next year?

With the many holes to fill, Stevie Wonder can see that's not a smart move in any way.

I mean that's like going out on a date with a lady and deciding she's not wifey material. A year later, after she got her heart broken (damaged goods), why would you reconsider her? What happened to make you change your mind?
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killarich

Quote from: T200 on January 02, 2025, 08:21:11 AMSo... they spent extensive time interviewing JJ and decided that he doesn't fit into their system and plans for what they want to do to move this team forward and be competitive. A year (and knee injury) later, after playing a total of ZERO regular season snaps, you're suggesting giving up draft capital from this year and next year?

With the many holes to fill, Stevie Wonder can see that's not a smart move in any way.

I mean that's like going out on a date with a lady and deciding she's not wifey material. A year later, after she got her heart broken (damaged goods), why would you reconsider her? What happened to make you change your mind?

That's what you will always do with any draft pick ....its possible the Giants draft a qb in the second round anyways


If JJ would have been a better SECOND round draft pick then any of the options this season I still think it's a no brainer

I was not and still not really a JJ fan especially for a first round pick

But for a second I think j uta worth giving a shot

Did the Vikings or anyone think Darnold would have this now OFFICIAL por bowl season ? No ..... but they took the chance

Giantleap56

Quote from: Jclayton92 on January 01, 2025, 09:08:08 PMI think I like wards prospects as a pro more than JJ but he would be above Sanders imo.

I agree with you. Sanders is way overrated. In two seasons he has over 200+ carries and negative yards rushing been sacked 92 times.

T200

Quote from: killarich on January 02, 2025, 09:40:20 AMThat's what you will always do with any draft pick ....its possible the Giants draft a qb in the second round anyways


If JJ would have been a better SECOND round draft pick then any of the options this season I still think it's a no brainer

I was not and still not really a JJ fan especially for a first round pick

But for a second I think j uta worth giving a shot

Did the Vikings or anyone think Darnold would have this now OFFICIAL por bowl season ? No ..... but they took the chance
I'm not opposed to them picking any player they have confidence in, regardless of position and round.

My point is that they didn't like JJ. Absolutely nothing has changed between the draft and now to make them reconsider their initial thoughts on him.
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-Giants GM Joe Schoen on potential roster plans and spending for the 2025 season.

Philosophers

Quote from: T200 on January 02, 2025, 08:21:11 AMSo... they spent extensive time interviewing JJ and decided that he doesn't fit into their system and plans for what they want to do to move this team forward and be competitive. A year (and knee injury) later, after playing a total of ZERO regular season snaps, you're suggesting giving up draft capital from this year and next year?

With the many holes to fill, Stevie Wonder can see that's not a smart move in any way.

I mean that's like going out on a date with a lady and deciding she's not wifey material. A year later, after she got her heart broken (damaged goods), why would you reconsider her? What happened to make you change your mind?

How do you know how they decided?

T200

Quote from: Philosophers on January 02, 2025, 09:52:32 AMHow do you know how they decided?
Do you mean as far as why they didn't draft him?

I don't know. But I don't see anything that has changed since the draft that would make them reconsider.
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"We're going to build this thing the right way... I'm not going to do a Hail Mary for self preservation. We've got a plan in place and we're going to stick with that"

-Giants GM Joe Schoen on potential roster plans and spending for the 2025 season.

katkavage

Quote from: T200 on January 02, 2025, 09:58:27 AMDo you mean as far as why they didn't draft him?

I don't know. But I don't see anything that has changed since the draft that would make them reconsider.
Because Nabers was the safer pick. The Giants don't take risks. Ever. And Schoen just goes to the big board and grabs the highest ranked player.

T200

Quote from: katkavage on January 02, 2025, 10:13:36 AMBecause Nabers was the safer pick. The Giants don't take risks. Ever. And Schoen just goes to the big board and grabs the highest ranked player.
That's an acceptable point of view. Saying "The Giants don't take risks" implies, to me, that Mara and his family makes the picks or has a very strong voice. And that will continue to be the issue, not the GM or coach.
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"We're going to build this thing the right way... I'm not going to do a Hail Mary for self preservation. We've got a plan in place and we're going to stick with that"

-Giants GM Joe Schoen on potential roster plans and spending for the 2025 season.