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Quote from: LennG on January 04, 2025, 05:51:22 PMThe Vikings are going to have to sign Darnold to at least a 3 year deal or he will walk. I just can't see them letting him walk. Does that mean JJ will sit all that time. He has the most value right now not next year.

Len,

Atlanta signed Cousins to a sizeabale 4 year deal and he didn't make it through 1.

Broncos gave up on Russell Wilson's deal after 2 years.

Further, they can franchise him to keep him 1 year and make sure JJ heals up and looks good on a field.  It will take a nice chunk out of their cap space but they have the room. 

I feel like unless someone comes in with a Herschel Walker type deal, both of those QBs will be in Minnesota next spring.

It's a good problem for them. 

At a minimum, they ought to franchise Darnold.

Quote from: T200 on January 02, 2025, 10:53:32 AMWho would be disappointed in picking Nabers? He was probably their #1 graded receiver.

I imagine a trade up for Maye or Daniels was 1A and a receiver was 1B.

Drafting a receiver instead of a QB to replace Jones falls into what Mara ultimately wanted: to keep Jones. So there was no need for him or his influential family members to sway the pick.

I simply don't get the yacking about taking or not taking McCarthy, or Penix for that matter, rather than someone like Nabers with the 6th overall when there was never any possibility that the Giants, the Franchise, the Owners, the GM were ready, willing or able to become unshackled from Daniel Jones for reasons which should be obvious. For anyone to now suggest otherwise is as foolish as it is disingenuous.

As for what McCarthy might now be worth to the Giants in lieu of a high First Round pick of Ward or Sanders, I'd say their 2nd Round No.35 and one or two of their later remaining 9 picks. However, if those 2 go first to the Titans and Browns, that could rearrange the apple cart.

But at least that's puzzling the future and not the vacuous past.

Cheers!

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on January 04, 2025, 07:07:27 PMAt a minimum, they ought to franchise Darnold.

That's what I thought, a sign and trade.

If McCarthy were in this year's draft he'd probably be the first player of the board.

Will be interesting to see how Darnold does in the playoffs, but he was brutal against the Lions last night.  The Lions have been giving up a lot of points over the last several weeks because their defense has like 13 guys on IR and Darnold couldn't get his team in the endzone. 

A similar performance against the Rams and I wouldn't trade JJ for just about anything. 

Quote from: uconnjack8 on January 06, 2025, 08:39:44 AMWill be interesting to see how Darnold does in the playoffs, but he was brutal against the Lions last night.  The Lions have been giving up a lot of points over the last several weeks because their defense has like 13 guys on IR and Darnold couldn't get his team in the endzone. 

A similar performance against the Rams and I wouldn't trade JJ for just about anything. 

You could very well be right.

Quote from: uconnjack8 on January 06, 2025, 08:39:44 AMWill be interesting to see how Darnold does in the playoffs, but he was brutal against the Lions last night.  The Lions have been giving up a lot of points over the last several weeks because their defense has like 13 guys on IR and Darnold couldn't get his team in the endzone. 

A similar performance against the Rams and I wouldn't trade JJ for just about anything. 

I think the Lions still have 5-6 opening day starters in D as many of the IR players were replacement starters. But lets give Aaron Glenn and the Lions D some credit. They played tight on Jefferson and Addison and neutralized the Vikings passing game. I wish the Giants could cover and tackle like Detroit.

Quote from: TDToomer on January 06, 2025, 10:38:18 AMI think the Lions still have 5-6 opening day starters in D as many of the IR players were replacement starters. But lets give Aaron Glenn and the Lions D some credit. They played tight on Jefferson and Addison and neutralized the Vikings passing game. I wish the Giants could cover and tackle like Detroit.

At some positions they were on 3rd and 4th stringers.  Lions did a great job fixing things that led to them giving up 40 points in some games and going for it on every 4th down.  Still, Darnold missed some important throws in the red zone and that 0-4 in that area was the difference

Quote from: MightyGiants on January 02, 2025, 12:32:05 PMI would love to get JJ McCarthy, but I just find it unlikely that the Vikings will move on from him unless they get considerably more than they "paid" for him.   

If I were the Vikings' GM, I would tag Sam Darnold and keep riding with him. If this season proves to be a fluke, they can fall back on JJ. If Sam has another great year, they can ride with him and then trade away JJ if they want more draft capital.   

What I wouldn't do as Vikings GM is part ways with Sam Darnold (since you don't know if JJ can be as good) or with JJ this offseason because you don't know if Darnold can repeat.

The Vikings paid a 1st, a 4th and a 5th (11., 129., 157. Pick)

I wouldn't trade him for a second rounder either. And surely, there will be teams willing to trader a 1st rounder for JJ.

Quote from: GordonGekko80 on January 06, 2025, 11:38:39 AMThe Vikings paid a 1st, a 4th and a 5th (11., 129., 157. Pick)

I wouldn't trade him for a second rounder either. And surely, there will be teams willing to trader a 1st rounder for JJ.

I was texting with a friend of mine who is a Raiders fan.  That fan base is floating the idea of Maxx Crosby for JJ McCarthy.  Clearly any team that needs a QB would be keen on acquiring JJ if he became available. There would be a serious bidding war.

here is another example of how every team that needs a QB is talking JJ

https://x.com/NFLNotify/status/1876364926023094533