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https://x.com/ArashMarkazi/status/1877365937281593559

Quote from: MightyGiants on January 09, 2025, 01:26:06 PMhttps://x.com/ArashMarkazi/status/1877365937281593559

Yet another comparison, "The August Complex" of 2020 was a series of dozens of wildfires, caused by lightning strikes with many of the individual fires merging into a single fire. The total area burned during these fires was over a million acres, about 1% of California's 100 million acres of land. The saving factor was that much of the burn area was not as densely populated, which limited the loss of life to only one death, (a firefighter), and it destroyed far fewer structures per acre than the current fires.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Complex_fire

Pacific Palisades fire will be more similar to Lahaina, Maui fire when it is over.

Quote from: Philosophers on January 09, 2025, 02:21:31 PMPacific Palisades fire will be more similar to Lahaina, Maui fire when it is over.

At a minimum.

Quote from: MightyGiants on January 09, 2025, 01:26:06 PMhttps://x.com/ArashMarkazi/status/1877365937281593559

Good morning, Rich @MightyGiants .

Many here (including myself), have lived in both regions but the primary driver for fire here in the west has been two decades of drought, and year or two of heavy rain, coupled with continued excess wet and dry spells, makes the vegetation more susceptible to burn under high burn risk conditions.

Los Angeles County is most susceptible during what are called the "Santa Ana Winds" period, which usually begins around December and can continue throughout the winter months. Desert high winds blow over the San Gabriel Mountains into the LA basin and drop the humidity, bring terrible air quality and increase risk of fire to the region. Even in Phoenix, prior to monsoon season, we run into this problem in late spring to early summer in the mountains outside of the Valley.

In that respect, apart from comparing the footprint size, the two regions contrast greatly. But one thing is certain. If New York had this type of issue, given the density of its population, the disaster could be multi-fold, and something I pray we never see.

The LA County first responders, National Guard and others are fighting an uphill battle right now and this will still be a monumental challenge to overcome.

Prayers for all of them and may this tragedy be contained very soon. Many people will have lost everything and not just the "stars" these tabloids are writing about.

Peace.

Quote from: MightyGiants on January 09, 2025, 09:31:26 AM










https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8e8l8980qo

Thanks for posting these pics.  I am not sure how many times I walked past Pali High School, to cross Sunset Boulevard on my way in to Temescal Canyon/Will Rogers State Parks.  Just feel awful for those people.

https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1877817983655153917

Quote from: MightyGiants on January 10, 2025, 03:49:30 PMhttps://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1877817983655153917

Pure and absolute class and abundant good will on behalf of the Cardinals and, especially for the Rams, they all will be in good hands here, amongst our greater community, for as long as it takes to safely return home.

THIS is what it is all about!

Vikings-Rams playoff game moved to Arizona due to LA wildfires

Peace!

Woke up a few hours ago. Of today, honestly, I need it. Driving home last night, I was surprised to see so much ash, especially how huge the ash was. I live about 6 miles from the hospital and noticed a change in the amount of ash and its size. Air quality near the hospital still bad, but definitely better than Wednesday.


I want to thank all here for your kind words, work was no stop, and the few minutes we get to ourselves are rare. Most of my lunch breaks are 8 to 10 hours into our shifts. In one of those breaks I came here just to get away from what is happening around me. Your kind words were uplifting. It's a reminder that there are good people around the world that do care about others and reaffirms that my fellow posters on this site are genuinely good and are concerned about each other.


Sadly, there are reports of looting, people going into homes that were evacuated and going in and stealing, reports of "copycats" trying to start more fires, someone with a drone damaged a water dropping airplane, taking it out of commission for the unforeseeable future. It was much needed and without it, will definably hinder the firefighter's battle with the numerous fires surrounding them.

It's sad to see some people do evil things during tragic circumstances, thank God that their good people, that rise and help out their fellow man. And seems to me the good outnumber the bad.


Again, thank you all for your words. God bless you and your loved ones.



Rob

Such devastation that has a long term effect on the region; astronomical losses to the nation as a whole! All could have been avoided and that is a shame!
Amateurs and incompetent fools have been in charge of this state and city causing many issues; but this one has brought their ineptitude to the surface.

Quote from: kartanoman on January 10, 2025, 08:29:40 AMAt a minimum.
Good morning, Rich @MightyGiants .

Many here (including myself), have lived in both regions but the primary driver for fire here in the west has been two decades of drought, and year or two of heavy rain, coupled with continued excess wet and dry spells, makes the vegetation more susceptible to burn under high burn risk conditions.

Los Angeles County is most susceptible during what are called the "Santa Ana Winds" period, which usually begins around December and can continue throughout the winter months. Desert high winds blow over the San Gabriel Mountains into the LA basin and drop the humidity, bring terrible air quality and increase risk of fire to the region. Even in Phoenix, prior to monsoon season, we run into this problem in late spring to early summer in the mountains outside of the Valley.

In that respect, apart from comparing the footprint size, the two regions contrast greatly. But one thing is certain. If New York had this type of issue, given the density of its population, the disaster could be multi-fold, and something I pray we never see.

The LA County first responders, National Guard and others are fighting an uphill battle right now and this will still be a monumental challenge to overcome.

Prayers for all of them and may this tragedy be contained very soon. Many people will have lost everything and not just the "stars" these tabloids are writing about.

Peace.

Santa Ana winds and dryness has always been an issue, what made this one so catastrophic is clear negligence and incompetence:
Water from the north has been cut off to save a fish species,
Many hydrants were dry and had no water pressure.
Only two large water and fire retardant dropping planes, one of them on loan from Canada and a few helicopters that started way too late, were available for such a vital need.
The fire department budget was cut last year by over 17mlion dollars which went towards accommodations for illegal aliens
They have stopped clearing brushes and burn them as they used to which decreased the severity of fires.
Dumbass fools are running this state and city and we all pay for it 😡

This is a catastrophe beyond comprehension. Maybe not as bad as the 1900 Galveston Hurricane (the deadliest natural disaster in United States history), or The Great 1906 San Francisco Earthquake that wiped out San Francisco, but right up there near the top. I don't see how they are going to be able to stop the fire, and rebuild before the 2028 Olympics. It is not through taking out more homes and forest, and it might not be under control for weeks

On a side not, I can't get that Freddy Cannon song out of my head, "Palisades Park"   

Classy move by the Bidwell's.  But i am still rooting for the Vikings.