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Finally a firing

Started by MightyGiants, January 14, 2025, 05:28:44 PM

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andrew_nyGiants

Looks like a scapegoat for the medical staff and trainers to me.


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MrGap92

Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on January 14, 2025, 05:29:48 PMLooks like a scapegoat for the medical staff and trainers to me.


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Same, he was here 11 months, we have been hobbled every year for over 11 years at this rate

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katkavage

That's the accountability for one of the worst seasons in Giants history.

kingm56

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on January 14, 2025, 05:42:06 PMToken firing?

Do we actually know if he was fired?  His name could have been removed from the directory for multiple reasons...

ozzie

The Giants need to cut this problem off at the head - Ronnie Barnes!
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DaveBrown74

Quote from: kingm56 on January 14, 2025, 05:45:24 PMDo we actually know if he was fired?  His name could have been removed from the directory for multiple reasons...

Good point, Matt.

Also, separately, if he is intended to be a scapegoat, and this was indeed a firing (which to Matt's point we don't know for sure), why wouldn't the Giants have announced this and made a thing of it?


coggs

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Don't think it was a firing.  Looks like he leaving for greener pastures.

https://x.com/DDuggan21/status/1879558287907258400?t=T6SuLy-FO5zvj8148_mmGw&s=19




Dan Duggan
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A few Giants staff departures that eagle-eyed observers have noticed:

• Defensive assistant Ben Burress: Burress had been with the Giants since 2019 in a variety of roles, most recently as a defensive assistant working with the OLB the past two seasons. He also had a front office/analytics role during the 2022 season. He is leaving for an offensive assistant role at South Carolina.

• Director of strength and conditioning Frank Piraino: Hired in February as part of a revamped strength staff, Piraino is leaving to re-join Mike Vrabel in New England. Piraino had been with Vrabel in Tennessee.

• Director of sports and performance nutrition Steve Smith: No word on the reason for his departure. He had been with the Giants in his role since 2020.
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kartanoman

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So, why not take a good look at why Frank and Steve was hired in the first place.

Both joined the Giants to implement plans to improve a "Lost Man-Games Due to Injury" metric where the Giants were the fourth most injured team in 2023.

Needless to say, the Giants metric bled in the RED, yet again and, although we don't have the lost games metrics to see where the Giants ended up against their peers, it wasn't hard to see how injuries impacted their overall performance. Not only avoiding injuries but strength and endurance.

The other thing to consider is the players' feedback on the strength and conditioning program under their watch must have been scathing if he was shown the door.

There are too many cause and effect variables here to justify termination versus scapegoating. The department's programs weren't getting their job done - period!

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MightyGiants

Quote from: coggs on January 15, 2025, 11:01:13 AMDon't think it was a firing.  Looks like he leaving for greener pastures.

https://x.com/DDuggan21/status/1879558287907258400?t=T6SuLy-FO5zvj8148_mmGw&s=19




Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
A few Giants staff departures that eagle-eyed observers have noticed:

• Defensive assistant Ben Burress: Burress had been with the Giants since 2019 in a variety of roles, most recently as a defensive assistant working with the OLB the past two seasons. He also had a front office/analytics role during the 2022 season. He is leaving for an offensive assistant role at South Carolina.

• Director of strength and conditioning Frank Piraino: Hired in February as part of a revamped strength staff, Piraino is leaving to re-join Mike Vrabel in New England. Piraino had been with Vrabel in Tennessee.

• Director of sports and performance nutrition Steve Smith: No word on the reason for his departure. He had been with the Giants in his role since 2020.
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Thanks for the clarification. 
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kartanoman

Quote from: MightyGiants on January 15, 2025, 11:38:51 AMThanks for the clarification. 

Likewise. In any event, safe harbor for those gentlemen while the jobs open up for others willing to take on what has become the most challenging role in all of sports.

If Johnny Parker did it with his breakthrough training methods over 40 years ago, surely someone out there has the ability to overcome the "Sardine Can Turfmonster" and get these boys fit and ready to go.

Now the task is to get out there and find that/those person/people.

Peace!


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spiderblue43

Ronnie Barnes goes to the grave with the Giants, part of the Mara cronyism.

MightyGiants

Quote from: spiderblue43 on January 15, 2025, 04:59:13 PMRonnie Barnes goes to the grave with the Giants, part of the Mara cronyism.

Ronnie isn't the only problem or the biggest problem, but he is emblematic of what plagues the organization.
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