Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: Philosophers on January 20, 2025, 11:54:03 AMI think that is how all breakaway RBs are — Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, Gale Sayers, etc.  Lots of low yardage carries and a few explosive ones.

It's a function of a RBs unique talent. It's not something replicable with a dominant OL.

Quote from: Philosophers on January 20, 2025, 11:54:03 AMI think that is how all breakaway RBs are — Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, Gale Sayers, etc.  Lots of low yardage carries and a few explosive ones.

And this works if you have the OL that can create the holes to take advantage of that breakaway speed. The Eagles could create those kind of holes a couple of times a game whereas the Giants couldn't consistently do it.

Quote from: jgrangers2 on January 20, 2025, 12:34:29 PMAnd this works if you have the OL that can create the holes to take advantage of that breakaway speed. The Eagles could create those kind of holes a couple of times a game whereas the Giants couldn't consistently do it.

Did you see the plays? Tyrone Tracey wouldn't have scored on either of those plays. It was all Barkley.

It's interesting that a dominant OL is responsible for two long runs but not responsible for 2.7 yards per carry on the other 24 runs.

Quote from: Doc16LT56 on January 20, 2025, 12:46:43 PMIt's interesting that a dominant OL is responsible for two long runs but not responsible for 2.7 yards per carry on the other 24 runs.

Excellent point Doc. One cannot cherry-pick on this subject and be credible.

Quote from: Doc16LT56 on January 20, 2025, 12:46:43 PMDid you see the plays? Tyrone Tracey wouldn't have scored on either of those plays. It was all Barkley.

It's interesting that a dominant OL is responsible for two long runs but not responsible for 2.7 yards per carry on the other 24 runs.

I'm not saying Tracy would have. I'm saying that in order to get Saquon up to that speed, you have to create those kinds of holes. There aren't many O-lines that can provide that level of blocking on a consistent basis.

Quote from: jgrangers2 on January 20, 2025, 01:49:51 PMI'm not saying Tracy would have. I'm saying that in order to get Saquon up to that speed, you have to create those kinds of holes. There aren't many O-lines that can provide that level of blocking on a consistent basis.

Fair enough. I'm just not sure I would call it consistent.

Good for him.  Glad to see him getting the success that all his hard work, over many years, has reaped. 

His speed is remarkable, of course, but it's plain to me that what truly separates Saquon from every other RB in the NFL is his acceleration.  That's how it's always been with him- it's what destroys defensive angles on him.  One year and he is already an Eagles legend.  Can't tell you how much I hate that it had to play out this way.  He should have been a GIANTS legend. 

Quote from: PSUBeirut on January 20, 2025, 03:44:46 PMGood for him.  Glad to see him getting the success that all his hard work, over many years, has reaped. 

His speed is remarkable, of course, but it's plain to me that what truly separates Saquon from every other RB in the NFL is his acceleration.  That's how it's always been with him- it's what destroys defensive angles on him.  One year and he is already an Eagles legend.  Can't tell you how much I hate that it had to play out this way.  He should have been a GIANTS legend. 

Another of the many turds in the office Gettleman left.  Drafts Saquon, immediately trades away the only other offensive threat, rendering his #2 pick utterly useless. 

I don't want to start a new thread about a former player so I will pose my question here.

Is anyone here rooting for the Eagles in the playoffs because of Barkley whether it is because you like him, miss him or want to stick it to the Giants for letting him go?

If not do you know of any Giants fans who are?

I have an 81 year old dad who won't stop talking about how pissed off he is that Barkley was let go without being resigned and has been rooting for the Eagles all season. It is now reaching a boiling point where I have had to beg him to stop texting me about his playoff success and chants of MVP MVP. Naturally he wants Barkley and the Eagles to win it all which revolting to me.

Am I overreacting? He is 81 so maybe that should be forgivable but he is a healthy, clear headed and will till his 90's based in family history so it is not a dementia thing. 

I would argue that Barkley also demonstrates the superiority of the Eagle's medical program compared to the Giant's Mickey Mouse medical program, run by an old man leaning heavily on nepotism.

Quote from: TDToomer on January 21, 2025, 02:33:47 PMI don't want to start a new thread about a former player so I will pose my question here.

Is anyone here rooting for the Eagles in the playoffs because of Barkley whether it is because you like him, miss him or want to stick it to the Giants for letting him go?

If not do you know of any Giants fans who are?

I have an 81 year old dad who won't stop talking about how pissed off he is that Barkley was let go without being resigned and has been rooting for the Eagles all season. It is now reaching a boiling point where I have had to beg him to stop texting me about his playoff success and chants of MVP MVP. Naturally he wants Barkley and the Eagles to win it all which revolting to me.

Am I overreacting? He is 81 so maybe that should be forgivable but he is a healthy, clear headed and will till his 90's based in family history so it is not a dementia thing. 

If he had gone to a team other than the Eagles I probably would.  But I can't stand Philly fans and want nothing but sports suffering for them always and forever.  If he had gone to the Commies instead I'd be rooting for him.  He's a good guy and a great player.  For all the "we did everything we could to ruin Jones" talk, Jones wasn't any good.  The Giants actually did ruin Barkley's first 5 seasons.

Quote from: TDToomer on January 21, 2025, 02:33:47 PMI don't want to start a new thread about a former player so I will pose my question here.

Is anyone here rooting for the Eagles in the playoffs because of Barkley whether it is because you like him, miss him or want to stick it to the Giants for letting him go?

If not do you know of any Giants fans who are?

I have an 81 year old dad who won't stop talking about how pissed off he is that Barkley was let go without being resigned and has been rooting for the Eagles all season. It is now reaching a boiling point where I have had to beg him to stop texting me about his playoff success and chants of MVP MVP. Naturally he wants Barkley and the Eagles to win it all which revolting to me.

Am I overreacting? He is 81 so maybe that should be forgivable but he is a healthy, clear headed and will till his 90's based in family history so it is not a dementia thing. 

I am rooting for Washington Commanders.  I appreciate that it's difficult to soar like an eagle when you're surrounded by turkeys.  That said, I am not sure what Barkley ever did for NYG or for the fans to warrant such loyalty.  Admittedly, it's proven to be a colossal blunder by Schoen, but rooting for Barkley's success will not undo the mistake.

Quote from: Philosophers on January 20, 2025, 04:24:06 AMOL drives everything on O.  Giants completely screwed the pooch having such a poor OL.  This is our Achilles Heel.  Fix this and even an average QB will punch above his weight class.  Holes for a RB and time to throw make an offense go.

I've been saying this for years now... our achilles heel screwed up the team for many years, along the way we screwed up careers, or at least years of two QBs (last years of Eli's and DJ's), Barkley's and others.... It's a shame that we have owners who are clueless themselves, picking the GMs who are inept, relative to others.

Quote from: TDToomer on January 21, 2025, 02:33:47 PMI don't want to start a new thread about a former player so I will pose my question here.

Is anyone here rooting for the Eagles in the playoffs because of Barkley whether it is because you like him, miss him or want to stick it to the Giants for letting him go?

If not do you know of any Giants fans who are?

I have an 81 year old dad who won't stop talking about how pissed off he is that Barkley was let go without being resigned and has been rooting for the Eagles all season. It is now reaching a boiling point where I have had to beg him to stop texting me about his playoff success and chants of MVP MVP. Naturally he wants Barkley and the Eagles to win it all which revolting to me.

Am I overreacting? He is 81 so maybe that should be forgivable but he is a healthy, clear headed and will till his 90's based in family history so it is not a dementia thing. 

I have a colleague who told me today he is pulling for Philly because he thinks Barkley deserves this success and he wants to see it continue. He made the point that "no matter what, an NFC East team not named the Giants has to win this game, so I might as well pull for the one with the player I like the most."

I get the above to a degree, but what is the plan if they make the Super Bowl? Could any Giants fan really root for the Eagles in a Super Bowl under any circumstances? That seems unfathomable to me.

I'm not even rooting for them this weekend, or ever. I despise the Eagles. I don't hold it against Barkley at all that he joined them, as he did what he had to do for his career and I still have total respect for him, but that doesn't mean I have to root for his team. I will never do that, ever. I can't stand that team or their classless fans.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on January 21, 2025, 06:47:59 PMI have a colleague who told me today he is pulling for Philly because he thinks Barkley deserves this success and he wants to see it continue. He made the point that "no matter what, an NFC East team not named the Giants has to win this game, so I might as well pull for the one with the player I like the most."

I get the above to a degree, but what is the plan if they make the Super Bowl? Could any Giants fan really root for the Eagles in a Super Bowl under any circumstances? That seems unfathomable to me.

I'm not even rooting for them this weekend, or ever. I despise the Eagles. I don't hold it against Barkley at all that he joined them, as he did what he had to do for his career and I still have total respect for him, but that doesn't mean I have to root for his team. I will never do that, ever. I can't stand that team or their classless fans.

Many Giants fans did root for the Eagles vs the Patriots when they won their only SB. Of course that includes my dad. The reasoning is crazy. That because of the 2 SBs vs the Patriots they were a bigger rival than the team we play twice a year with the worse fanbase in all USA sports. I was livid at my Dad and called him a traitor.

Of course I am not rooting for the Eagles this weekend and though I won't root for injuries let's just say I won't be broken hearted about any to the Commies. Anything to get the Bills their long awaited title (since the merger).