Big Blue Huddle

I did one via PFF leaning heavily on BPA.  I doubled up at QB figuring two chances are better than one.  Admittedly, I seriously doubt Dart lasts this long




For those who would like to play, here are some mock draft simulators

https://www.pff.com/draft/nfl-mock-draft-simulator?ref=9decfd74-914d-4dfa-9cd5-3cd7b3ff797c

This one has free trades

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/mockdraft

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/mock-draft-simulator

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/simulator

I don't view this as realistic at all, but this is what I came up with. Two trades in R1

Wanted a G at some point, but the opportunity wasn't there

I traded with the Jets, using their pick to take Dart

Both Milroe and Dart in Round 4? You'd better have lie-down, Rich. Then maybe that part of your Mock 2 won't look like an attempt to mock Joe Schoen beyond what he has been already as we know damn well that you expect nothing of the kind.

 

Quote from: Painter on February 13, 2025, 12:20:17 PMBoth Milroe and Dart in Round 4? You'd better have lie-down, Rich. Then maybe that part of your Mock 2 won't look like an attempt to mock Joe Schoen beyond what he has been already as we know damn well that you expect nothing of the kind.

 

Lighten up, Larry

Mock draft simulators, first and foremost, are just fun.

They can also be educational in getting a sense of what positions will be available when.

Last year, I didn't play with them as much because they had guys like Nix, JJ, and Penix available in rounds 2 and sometimes 3.

Admittedly, it seems highly unlikely that Dart will be available in round 4.  Miliroe, I am not so sure.

Still, I suspect I could sub out those two names and put, say, Howard and McCord there, and my intent of double dipping would still be the same (just admittedly with a lower tier of QB)

Unless they get Cam Ward (and even if the do) the odds are they will be looking for a franchise QB in next year's draft. If my job wasn't on the line and the owner didn't give me an impossible win now ultimatum, I would draft Mason Graham, Carter and Hunter going one two because neither Cleveland or Tennessee think much of the QBs either. Build that defense and get the QB next year. Not gonna happen. Sadly the spin cycle will continue indefinitely.

Quote from: katkavage on February 13, 2025, 01:24:15 PMUnless they get Cam Ward (and even if the do) the odds are they will be looking for a franchise QB in next year's draft. If my job wasn't on the line and the owner didn't give me an impossible win now ultimatum, I would draft Mason Graham, Carter and Hunter going one two because neither Cleveland or Tennessee think much of the QBs either. Build that defense and get the QB next year. Not gonna happen. Sadly the spin cycle will continue indefinitely.

The one thing (assuming Schoen doesn't foolishly trade up) is that the team should be sitting pretty at 3.  There should be an elite CB, DT, and Edge to pick at 3 (potentially more than one).  I tend to agree at 3 the only QB worth consideration is Ward (maybe Dart, but he will have to hit the rest of the draft process out of the park).   

In terms of drafting a QB, I wouldn't mind double dipping if the Giants end up with a day 2 QB pick.  Take a day 2 guy, and a flyer on a day 3 guy.  Improve the team's chances on hitting on one.

Here @Painter

I did a QB double dip with more realistic prospects at the point they were drafted

I use the nfldmockraftdatabase.com without any trades

1) Travis Hunter - CB Colorado (get our CB1 while we have the rare opportunity)
2) Jack Sawyer - LB/Edge Ohio St. (just imagine him paired with Bobby Okereke)
3) Kyle McCord - QB Syracuse (love his tenacity and winning mindset...and he took a losing star-less team to a winning team, and beat Cam Ward on Ward's "good day")
4) Ozzie Trapilo - OT Boston College (superb tackle who has been exclusively used at RT, and we've had luck with OLmen from BC...remember Snee was a BC guy)
5) JJ Pegues - DT Mississippi (huge man - run stuffer who has a nose for the QB who gets sacks - always double teamed in college, won't be next to Dex)
6) Kyren Lacey - WR LSU (we've had good luck with LSU receivers)
7) Tyler Shough - QB Louisville (size wise and skill wise, practically a blonde-haired clone of Daniel Jones, but he isn't DJ. I want out of QB hell, so I'd take two QBs this draft and let them fight it out and find out if we have something special to groom)

Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on February 13, 2025, 01:43:44 PMI use the nfldmockraftdatabase.com without any trades

1) Travis Hunter - CB Colorado (get our CB1 while we have the rare opportunity)
2) Jack Sawyer - LB/Edge Ohio St. (just imagine him paired with Bobby Okereke)
3) Kyle McCord - QB Syracuse (love his tenacity and winning mindset...and he took a losing star-less team to a winning team, and beat Cam Ward on Ward's "good day")
4) Ozzie Trapilo - OT Boston College (superb tackle who has been exclusively used at RT, and we've had luck with OLmen from BC...remember Snee was a BC guy)
5) JJ Pegues - DT Mississippi (huge man - run stuffer who has a nose for the QB who gets sacks - always double teamed in college, won't be next to Dex)
6) Kyren Lacey - WR LSU (we've had good luck with LSU receivers)
7) Tyler Shough - QB Louisville (size wise and skill wise, practically a blonde-haired clone of Daniel Jones, but he isn't DJ. I want out of QB hell, so I'd take two QBs this draft and let them fight it out and find out if we have something special to groom)

Ric,

I like your QB double dipping 

PS-  It's great that you included explanations for the picks

I used PFF,  but not being a subscriber, I was limited to only 3 rounds.

Quote from: Sem on February 13, 2025, 01:56:06 PMI used PFF,  but not being a subscriber, I was limited to only 3 rounds.

If you're not a subscriber, you might want to consider the Pro Football Network.  It has writeups on players and free trades, including you being offered trades.

Quote from: MightyGiants on February 13, 2025, 12:27:17 PMLighten up, Larry

Mock draft simulators, first and foremost, are just fun.

They can also be educational in getting a sense of what positions will be available when.

Last year, I didn't play with them as much because they had guys like Nix, JJ, and Penix available in rounds 2 and sometimes 3.

Admittedly, it seems highly unlikely that Dart will be available in round 4.  Miliroe, I am not so sure.

Still, I suspect I could sub out those two names and put, say, Howard and McCord there, and my intent of double dipping would still be the same (just admittedly with a lower tier of QB)

Okay but still, I wouldn't change a word of what I said.

Cheers!

Quote from: Painter on February 13, 2025, 02:19:25 PMOkay but still, I wouldn't change a word of what I said.

Cheers!

You wouldn't be you, if you did     

Quote from: MightyGiants on February 13, 2025, 01:48:44 PMRic,

I like your QB double dipping 

PS-  It's great that you included explanations for the picks

I'd be happy with that draft, but I'm no expert. The only part of using a mock draft program, is picking the late picks as it is pretty well picked over. For WRs, I waffle between Kyren Lacy, and Arian Smith, a 6', Georgia Bulldogs' WR who runs a 40-time of 4.28

Another late pick that I like is a true FB, wrongly listed as a TE IMO, is Brant Kuithe. At 6-2, and about 240 lbs, he's too short/small for a TE, even though that's the position he's played. IMO, he'd be a great compliment to Tyrone Tracy in the backfield (the return of thunder and lightning). Kind of a Brandon Jacobs type bulldozer RB, but with exceptional route running and receiving skills for a player at the position of FB...and I like have a true FB on the team https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Brant-Kuithe-TE-Utah

As a sidenote, DT JJ Pegues was routinely used in the offense inside the 10 yard line. At 330 lbs or more, he is amazingly quick and shifty with his feet and is a converted TE after his weight climbed past 270. But he runs a 4.90, and is incredibly strong, moving the line whilst carrying the ball, but also has great receiving skills. To me, he's just an interesting player...especially working alongside Dexter. Also, just as another note, Pegues is on Bruce Feldman's Freak List