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Rumors on the Giants' free agent position interests

Started by MightyGiants, March 03, 2025, 10:58:24 AM

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Brooklyn Dave

Why are Daboll and Schoen so unwilling to try Neal at Guard ? Is it hubris on their part to admit a mistake ? Can someone come up with a logical explanation?

MightyGiants

Quote from: Brooklyn Dave on March 07, 2025, 09:51:05 PMWhy are Daboll and Schoen so unwilling to try Neal at Guard ? Is it hubris on their part to admit a mistake ? Can someone come up with a logical explanation?

It's a good question, best guess, stubbornness, and lack of mental flexibility
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DaveBrown74

Quote from: Brooklyn Dave on March 07, 2025, 09:51:05 PMWhy are Daboll and Schoen so unwilling to try Neal at Guard ? Is it hubris on their part to admit a mistake ? Can someone come up with a logical explanation?

https://x.com/jasrifootball/status/1898060628247605649

spiderblue43

Giants seem to be zoned in CB or IOL. But they may have to overpay in all likelihood for them (Reed? Fries?). Does that make them more competitive? Perhaps but the depth issue is severely obvious still on both sides of the ball. Desperation and hope are not winning strategies.

Then you factor in the QB stop gap and heir apparent (Rogers? Ward?) to mesh to climb out of basement with a daunting schedule and division. Yipes. I'd prefer they could wait until next year to draft a QB, but thats not happening. Job survival mode is in place and Mara has decreed a future QB now, hence a likely trade up to get one.

 :Giants:  :boldblue: ...wish I could be more hopeful.

spiderblue43

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on March 08, 2025, 08:10:55 AMhttps://x.com/jasrifootball/status/1898060628247605649

dave,

I dont even consider Neal as non-quality depth. No faith in him to transition to guard. Beckton got with the great group in Philly and showed well at guard with his massive bulk. I think of him as more of an exception. Neal is softer than a Carvel icre cream cone.

MightyGiants

Quote from: spiderblue43 on March 08, 2025, 09:11:56 AMdave,

I dont even consider Neal as non-quality depth. No faith in him to transition to guard. Beckton got with the great group in Philly and showed well at guard with his massive bulk. I think of him as more of an exception. Neal is softer than a Carvel icre cream cone.

This is what makes not trying Neal at guard last season such a colossal blunder.  They could have had more information about Neal's abilities at guard, which would have allowed them to make more informed offseason plans.
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DaveBrown74

Quote from: spiderblue43 on March 08, 2025, 09:11:56 AMdave,

I dont even consider Neal as non-quality depth. No faith in him to transition to guard. Beckton got with the great group in Philly and showed well at guard with his massive bulk. I think of him as more of an exception. Neal is softer than a Carvel icre cream cone.

I don't disagree that he is likely to fail. However, I'd rather at least take a look at him before cutting bait completely. We did that with Flowers and it proved to be a mistake. Beckton is also an example of a failed OT who has found a career at guard.

Does that mean Neal will too necessarily? Of course not. He probably won't. But what is the downside of exploring it a little bit, with a very tight leash? Why we didn't do that last year is a mystery.

spiderblue43

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on March 08, 2025, 11:29:12 AMI don't disagree that he is likely to fail. However, I'd rather at least take a look at him before cutting bait completely. We did that with Flowers and it proved to be a mistake. Beckton is also an example of a failed OT who has found a career at guard.

Does that mean Neal will too necessarily? Of course not. He probably won't. But what is the downside of exploring it a little bit, with a very tight leash? Why we didn't do that last year is a mystery.

Fair point, Dave. Of course..this now a salvage operation..but wow .

coggs

Quote from: Bob In PA on March 05, 2025, 08:37:15 AMRich: If true (the part about high-end CB) it would signal they're not interested in Hunter (more likely) or convinced that Hunter will be gone (less likely) or, in any event, if they actually want to trade up, it is certainly not for Hunter. That's a big IF, of course, since this info just a rumor at this point. Bob
Not necessarily.  You need 3 good corners nowadays with all the 3-4 WR sets offenses use nowadays.  Or, they could also be so down on Banks that they may not trust him as the #1.

coggs

Quote from: Brooklyn Dave on March 07, 2025, 09:51:05 PMWhy are Daboll and Schoen so unwilling to try Neal at Guard ? Is it hubris on their part to admit a mistake ? Can someone come up with a logical explanation?
I am all for trying him at guard, but there is no guarantee he will be good enough. If they can sign someone that they see as an upgrade to what they have now, have to go for it.