BBH Draft Preview 2013 - DEFENSE

[UKGiantsFan]

Ceri, Great write up.

I'd say that Dee Milliner, Alabama is the one player I do not want, but that point is probably moot. He'll be long gone by pick 19. Good luck to anyone who takes him. He has great measureables but I wasn't surprised Notre Dame went after him the way they did in the National Championship game. Unfortunately for them, completing passes out of bounds doesn't count, but for me it seemed the ND receivers had him beat - a lot. I would argue he played against the worst group of WRs and TEs in the SEC in a very long time. There are no AJ Greens, Julio Joneses, or Mike Wallaces in that group. He's a good corner but he's not a top ten pick in my opinion, although that's where he'll go.

I preferred Rhodes but now you have me thinking. Regardless, I see a top pick going toward another position. Any thoughts on the two from Cal? I am intrigued by Williams.

I can understand why you say that 'Bama but I think his length/speed/physicality in routes is a good reason why ND struggled to complete passes in bounds. He forces you real close to the sideline and uses it as his friend. I'd disagree that the SEC was totally bereft of WR talent but it was all in Tennessee and when the Crimson Tide played them he had a really good game. I have done my top 32 now and he sits at 10 overall. His lack of INT's for me is why he isn't doesn't rate higher.

[todge]

Rhodes may also be downgraded by the Giants because he does have questionable tackling fundamentals (which is crucial for the Giant CBs).  He also may not be a good fit their schemes as has played "press" coverage only and may not be able to grasp the fundamentals of flex zone coverages.

[uconnjack8]

Did not know he had those concussions.  Sounds like he could be the next Bob Sanders, great when healthy, but rarely healthy.

[Destiny]

Reese doesn't draft according to scheme.  Gilbride hardly uses more than 3 WRs yet we draft and sign WRs every year. CB is a huge need and Rhodes is a value at 19. Scheme won't get in the way.  Tackling and technique can be coached, that's their job.  You can't teach speed and size. Reese says this every year.

[Destiny]

While Montgomery isn't a first round talent anymore I do believe he's getting underrated.  He spoke his mind about the trying statement.  I highly doubt you'll find many giving their all, risking injury against the lesser teams int he country.  And everyone forgets he says he can't afford to do that anymore in the NFL...

Regardless for the talk about a lack of burst he posted a better 40 time and a 10 yard split than Damontre Moore. Hopefully teams are put off by him so he's available in the 3rd.

[Destiny]

I am praying for Hankins in the 2nd. Before the insane Shariff Floyd hype train kicked in, Hankins was raved.  This was after the season too so he had no bad games and he didn't have any dumb off the field moments either. Not only would be stuff the run but he can eat double teams consistently which bodes well for Linval and JPP.

[MightyGiants]

I am praying for Hankins in the 2nd. Before the insane Shariff Floyd hype train kicked in, Hankins was raved.  This was after the season too so he had no bad games and he didn't have any dumb off the field moments either. Not only would be stuff the run but he can eat double teams consistently which bodes well for Linval and JPP.

This would be a good pick

[MightyGiants]

While Montgomery isn't a first round talent anymore I do believe he's getting underrated.  He spoke his mind about the trying statement.  I highly doubt you'll find many giving their all, risking injury against the lesser teams int he country.  And everyone forgets he says he can't afford to do that anymore in the NFL...

Regardless for the talk about a lack of burst he posted a better 40 time and a 10 yard split than Damontre Moore. Hopefully teams are put off by him so he's available in the 3rd.

Do you see a guy with his speed chasing down RG3 or Kapernick?

[MightyGiants]

Reese doesn't draft according to scheme.  Gilbride hardly uses more than 3 WRs yet we draft and sign WRs every year. CB is a huge need and Rhodes is a value at 19. Scheme won't get in the way.  Tackling and technique can be coached, that's their job.  You can't teach speed and size. Reese says this every year.

4.65 in the short shuttle is a huge red flag.  Short shuttle times should be .2 seconds less than their 40 time.   To have a time greater than his 40 time indicates a very stiff athlete with poor change of direction ability.

[todge]

Reese doesn't draft according to scheme.  Gilbride hardly uses more than 3 WRs yet we draft and sign WRs every year. CB is a huge need and Rhodes is a value at 19. Scheme won't get in the way.  Tackling and technique can be coached, that's their job.  You can't teach speed and size. Reese says this every year.

Welcome to the Board Destiny.

With al due respect - every team drafts players to fit their particular schemes.  If you break down CBs - there are some who are better suited to play zone and others that are better suited to play man.  I would refer you to UK Giants Fan's assessment of Rhodes listed above "... complete and total lack of awareness in zone coverage. Would be a square peg in a round hole in our defensive system".   Of which I totally agree with.

[Jaime]

Ceri, hey man keep the Intel coming!

Thought I'd throw this out to the gang. Heard yesterday on "Path to the draft" that the top CB prospect Dee Millilner is currently dealing with four separate injury issues. I have no reason to doubt the veracity of this report. So I am really skeptical that someone's going to spend a top 10 pick on a prospect 
Sporting so much injury baggage. Ergo, just may be this outstanding prospect falls a bit to us @ #19?
Can't wait for Thurs. nite!

[todge]

That would create a situation similiar to the Prince fall.  Wouldn't that be ironic? The only difference is that the Giants might not pull the trigger on Milliner as they almost had to on Prince.  Would a trade down then be in order? 

[Jaime]

That trading down stuff scares me. You have no control over who will be there. As opposed to trading up we know we r going to get. I think the Giants are in a great spot @ #19. We can sit there and let the draft come to us. With OL talent pool deep enough for a plug-in starter in the 3rd. Rd. , we have the luxury of sitting back and choosing the BPA at Corner, DE, or DT.
Go Giants!

[todge]

Jenny Vrentas and Art Stapleton - 2 Giants beat writers both report that the Giants have been in touch with Darrius Slay "a lot lately".   They also had him in last week for a private workout.  He is solid 2nd Round value and would be an instant starter at CB ahead of CWeb.

[UKGiantsFan]

The talent available
Not a great year for LB