Giants VS Panthers game thread

[Trench]

This is the second time I've made this statement this year.  If Tommy D was our QB today, we would be winning or at least tied.  DJ has been that bad...again.

I couldn't agree more. He's a competitor and it shows on the tv in real time. Jones is a hard worker who I believe cares deeply but is lacking the "it" factor.

[Woody]

If there is a leader on this team.....he needs to step up and challenge everyone to play better and win a winnable game.
Not sure that will happen ...but it needs to


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[kingm56]

Bad play calling by the coach. 

It's mind boggling that some fans are still blaming the coaching.  Talk about confirmation bias...

[MrGap92]

I would respectfully push back. It most certainly is the QB but in certain instances like today it can be a combination of both. We have seen Daboll get cute plenty of times without success.  Today is a prime example is all.

How is completely wide open receivers, many of which are fairly short yardage bad calls? Any decent QB can make these and the play is made.

If we had a real QB Daboll would not be getting called out for his playcalling

[DaveBrown74]

I would respectfully push back. It most certainly is the QB but in certain instances like today it can be a combination of both. We have seen Daboll get cute plenty of times without success.  Today is a prime example is all.

If the point is that the coach is calling plays that require an NFL QB making $40mm a year to be able to throw the ball to an open guy 25 yards away, then ok I guess.

You can't win calling only screens, checkdowns, 6 yard stick routes, and bubble screen type plays. Are we playing to win, or are we playing to get Jones as many 4 yard completions as possible?

[T200]

It's mind boggling that some fans are still blaming the coaching.  Talk about confirmation bias...

He called a "trick" play to get receivers open but because the QB is horrible, it was a bad call.

Some perspectives i just don't understand at all.

[files58]

I just called my son at college who I know is watching. He said "I don't know what Germany did to deserve this game".

[kingm56]

I hope the fans claiming coaching is the problem are watching the half time show; they're echoing the same things Warner did during the game. 

[MrGap92]

He called a "trick" play to get receivers open but because the QB is horrible, it was a bad call.

Some perspectives i just don't understand at all.

Yeah, if you ever make sense of it, DM me and help me understand.

[Messiah717]

Jones is miserable but this coach is horrendous. 

[T200]

If the point is that the coach is calling plays that require an NFL QB making $40mm a year to be able to throw the ball to an open guy 25 yards away, then ok I guess.

You can't win calling only screens, checkdowns, 6 yard stick routes, and bubble screen type plays. Are we playing to win, or are we playing to get Jones as many 4 yard completions as possible?

Hey, don't knock that 65% completion rate! It counts for something! 

[Stringer Bell]

He called a "trick" play to get receivers open but because the QB is horrible, it was a bad call.

Some perspectives i just don't understand at all.

Because all you need is 1 yard and have a dynamic RB who has been playing extremely well. What's so hard to understand about running the ball on 3rd and 1 when you have a good RB and a terrible QB?

For all the bitching about DJ, I don't understand why we'd prefer the ball in his hands vs Tracy's.

[killarich]

I hope the fans claiming coaching is the problem are watching the half time show; they're echoing the same things Warner did during the game. 

Yea.... Jones has constantly missed open receivers all season... that flea flicker was just obviously bad

If Jones would throw those balls all season .... Not only would Jones be doing slightly better we would not even be questioning Dabolls playcalling... not one bit

[T200]

Yeah, if you ever make sense of it, DM me and help me understand.

Dont hold your breath. 

[Gmo11]

He called a "trick" play to get receivers open but because the QB is horrible, it was a bad call.

Some perspectives i just don't understand at all.

And it worked!  he had 2 guys wide open.  Jones is infuriating to watch sometimes.