CFP - Semis/Final

[Philosophers]

The PSU - ND game is a good defensive battle.  Few observations up to the half.

Drew Aller has not impressed me but neither has Ryan Leonard.  Allar's touch passes wonble.  They are not tight spirals.

Carter has nice bemd around edge and also a slow then super fast gear however I see him slowing down when running down the LOS.  I dont see him at least in this game as having a non-stop motor that plays 100% to the whistle.  His physicals sure look good.

The safeties on both teams close quickly to the LOS.

Penn State's running game is more effective.  PSu runs this 1980s QB two handed pitch that looks like it will gain nothing but their RBs find creases that turn it into a 5 yard gain.

[Ed Vette]

Would you draft Tyler Warren if he dropped to the second round for this team?

[Philosophers]

Would you draft Tyler Warren if he dropped to the second round for this team?

I like him but I think we have greater needs than a TE for round 2. 

[Stringer Bell]

He's not making it out of the first round. No chance.

And if by some miracle he did, he'd be a no brainer pick despite there being 6-7 positions that are much higher need.

He has one of the highest floors in the draft.

[uconnjack8]

Would you draft Tyler Warren if he dropped to the second round for this team?

Good question.  You think he is going in the 1st at this point?

I think he probably would at this point. 

I think he could one of those few TEs that really plays both part of the position well.  Giants need all the help they can get on offense.  He's a nice complement to Nabers in the passing game.  Would have to see who else is available but I wouldn't be against it if they did.

[uconnjack8]

I think Allar is showing why he stayed in school another year. 

Penn St is winning the battles on both sides of the line.  I think very highly of Abdul Carter but have to say there is a lot of good players on the front 7 for Penn St.

[Philosophers]

Would you draft Tyler Warren if he dropped to the second round for this team?

Ed - another question you have to think about is how would you use Tyler Warren?  I see him more around the LOS than as an intermediate/downfield threat.  If that's what you want, Colston Loveland is a better TE.

[Philosophers]

I think Allar is showing why he stayed in school another year. 

Penn St is winning the battles on both sides of the line.  I think very highly of Abdul Carter but have to say there is a lot of good players on the front 7 for Penn St.

Agree about Allar.

Everyone has been talking about ND's D but Penn State's D has really showed up.  The DC is mixing up pressure very well.

You can see how both defenses beat their previous opponents.

[Ed Vette]

Ed - another question you have to think about is how would you use Tyler Warren?  I see him more around the LOS than as an intermediate/downfield threat.  If that's what you want, Colston Loveland is a better TE.

Picking from the second round or moving up from the second, it comes down to deciding the drafting goals. He should definitely be the BPA in the second round. Drafting by position of greatest need fills holes quicker but misses happen. I would use him to his strengths. I don't think Schoen would pick him. He has two TE's on the Roster completing that position. If it were his first year as GM, he might make the pick. Which brings up another issue of a GM with a short rope.

[Jclayton92]

Would you draft Tyler Warren if he dropped to the second round for this team?

He's a top 16 prospect in my opinion this season. I think he can do a little bit of everything whether it's Los, out wide, and even full back.

Somehow he'll end up dropping and someone like San Fran will get him in the late 1st  and he'll be an all pro.

[Ed Vette]

He's not making it out of the first round. No chance.

And if by some miracle he did, he'd be a no brainer pick despite there being 6-7 positions that are much higher need.

He has one of the highest floors in the draft.

At what point would you move up to get him.? I would give it consideration for a few slots but not give up a third to move up mid first. My guess is he's gone by 20-25.

[Ed Vette]

He's a top 16 prospect in my opinion this season. I think he can do a little bit of everything whether it's Los, out wide, and even full back.

Somehow he'll end up dropping and someone like San Fran will get him in the late 1st  and he'll be an all pro.

Yes, he's that good.

[Philosophers]

I love the effort of both team's running backs.  Running hard and physical.

[Ed Vette]

I love the effort of both team's running backs.  Running hard and physical.

I was just thinking the same thing. That third
Effort by Love was awesome. 17 TD, rushing this season. Both teams are well matched. Smashmouth Football.

[Stringer Bell]

At what point would you move up to get him.? I would give it consideration for a few slots but not give up a third to move up mid first. My guess is he's gone by 20-25.

I wouldn't move up to get him.

We have far too many holes to trade any picks, especially for a position that isn't a big need. I'd only take him by some miracle he fell to us.

I see him going 15-20.