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[killarich]

I have come to conclusion that getting Sanders or Ward seems unlikely


But Hunter is not a bad option either... BUT how elite is he on either side of the  ball ? It seems like the census is he will be a full time corner with sprinkled in offense... sounds like a great problem too have.... but is he ELITE as a CB ? Or is there a better corner in the draft ?

It seems like their is a bonafide CB or pass rusher that could be had


Im just getting Isiah Simmons vibes here ... tweener in College who dominated but didn't translate well to the NFL

[Stringer Bell]

I have come to conclusion that getting Sanders or Ward seems unlikely


But Hunter is not a bad option either... BUT how elite is he on either side of the  ball ? It seems like the census is he will be a full time corner with sprinkled in offense... sounds like a great problem too have.... but is he ELITE as a CB ? Or is there a better corner in the draft ?

It seems like their is a bonafide CB or pass rusher that could be had


Im just getting Isiah Simmons vibes here ... tweener in College who dominated but didn't translate well to the NFL

Simmons is not a good comp for Hunter. Simmons didn't have a position in the NFL. Hunter would be a day 1 starter at whatever position he decides.

He's a very good CB and would instantly be our #1 CB. That said, Will Johnson is a better CB.

Hunter would be our #2 WR if he played that position full time, and I think he's put up decent numbers. But I don't like the idea of playing him on offense as a gadget guy, and I don't think the Giants are creative enough to use him in that capacity.

So if we're only drafting him with one position in mind, then Johnson would be the way to go.

[Bob In PA]

I have come to conclusion that getting Sanders or Ward seems unlikely


But Hunter is not a bad option either... BUT how elite is he on either side of the  ball ? It seems like the census is he will be a full time corner with sprinkled in offense... sounds like a great problem too have.... but is he ELITE as a CB ? Or is there a better corner in the draft ?

It seems like their is a bonafide CB or pass rusher that could be had


Im just getting Isiah Simmons vibes here ... tweener in College who dominated but didn't translate well to the NFL

There's no better CB this year. The guy from Michigan may be just as good, but there are none better. Bob

[Ed Vette]

The problem playing both sides in the NFL is the grueling schedule. Four more games plus the preseason. I don't think he needs to be a gadget player but I can see him on third and long. I can also see him starting on Offense if Nabors goes down for a game or two.

[MrGap92]

I think he is a better corner than receiver, I am sure he will play both, just don't think it will be, or should be full time in the big leagues.

[MightyGiants]

The problem playing both sides in the NFL is the grueling schedule. Four more games plus the preseason. I don't think he needs to be a gadget player but I can see him on third and long. I can also see him starting on Offense if Nabors goes down for a game or two.

If the Giants were to draft him, I would think he would be the starting (and number one CB).  He would take maybe half a dozen WR snaps a game (depending on snap counts). 

That's an interesting idea in terms of Hunter being a potential backup for Nabers.  I would think such a plan would be dependent on how much better and deeper Schoen and Daboll can build up the CB room.  I mean if he were to be a starting WR, I wouldn't want him taking that many snaps at CB.

[Giantleap56]

Here is the problem with two way athletes. Once they get injured and believe me they will. You lose two players. Thats why I prefer him to be a receiver he would be more dynamic there using his skills to be more impactful. If Giants want to use him as a receiver then I'm all for it. But if they want him as CB I'm going to pass and select Abdul Carter who I believe has HOF potential.

[Ed Vette]

If the Giants were to draft him, I would think he would be the starting (and number one CB).  He would take maybe half a dozen WR snaps a game (depending on snap counts). 

That's an interesting idea in terms of Hunter being a potential backup for Nabers.  I would think such a plan would be dependent on how much better and deeper Schoen and Daboll can build up the CB room.  I mean if he were to be a starting WR, I wouldn't want him taking that many snaps at CB.

For sure.

[PSUBeirut]

My biggest worry about Hunter is that they will try to make him a 2-way athlete, at which point he truly excels at neither.  I just don't think today's NFL is the place for it anymore- not just the physical demands but the mental.

[Philosophers]

People overvalue him because he plays 2 positions at a high level however he is not the best CB in this draft as that is Will Johnson.

As to WR, McMillan is probably better.

If I am drafting 3 I want the best, not some combo.  I like Hunter but if I want a CB I take WJ.  If I have some creative use of a two way player I want Hunter.  How fast is he?  I hear he may be around 4.5.  WJ will be faster.

[Bob In PA]

The problem playing both sides in the NFL is the grueling schedule. Four more games plus the preseason. I don't think he needs to be a gadget player but I can see him on third and long. I can also see him starting on Offense if Nabors goes down for a game or two.

Ed: No doubt about it, but if there's a player who can do it, it's Hunter. You noted in a post a long while back that Hunter goes to incredible lengths to develop and maintain his physical stamina and strength. He's the "smaller guy" version of Saquon in that regard. Bob

[Jolly Blue Giant]

I'm all on board for drafting Hunter. As far as injuries go, they're going to happen no matter who you draft unless your team is incredibly lucky...after all, football is a brutal game

In a way, I'm glad we fell out of the draft position to have to take one of the two QBs. I believe there might be a QB gem in this year's class, but I'm not sold on the two favorites as "sure things", and blowing a no.1 pick on a QB has a history of unfortunate disasters that set the team back another few years. A review of history in which true franchise QBs developed, aren't always the first or second off the board. Mahommes was a 10th pick in the 2017 draft behind Trubinsky who was the first QB taken. Josh Allen was the third QB taken in the 2018 draft behind Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold and Lamar Jackson was the 5th QB taken in the same draft...and of course, there is the legendary Tom Brady, a 6th round pick

So, with all that in mind, I'd love to pick a "sure thing" with the no.3 overall pick, rather than roll the dice on a QB, which is anything buy a sure thing

[Bob In PA]

My biggest worry about Hunter is that they will try to make him a 2-way athlete, at which point he truly excels at neither.  I just don't think today's NFL is the place for it anymore- not just the physical demands but the mental.

PSU: We don't know for sure that they will try to play him on both sides, although I'm certain he will have the opportunity to show his stuff on offense and defense, at a minimum, during training camp. You're 100-percent right IMO about everything else, but I'll say that if anyone could still be an "iron man" it is Hunter, who is in "Saquon-level" physical condition for his body type. Bob

[kingm56]

Simmons is not a good comp for Hunter. Simmons didn't have a position in the NFL. Hunter would be a day 1 starter at whatever position he decides.

He's a very good CB and would instantly be our #1 CB. That said, Will Johnson is a better CB.

Hunter would be our #2 WR if he played that position full time, and I think he's put up decent numbers. But I don't like the idea of playing him on offense as a gadget guy, and I don't think the Giants are creative enough to use him in that capacity.

So if we're only drafting him with one position in mind, then Johnson would be the way to go.

I completely agree, Stinger.  I never bought into the I. Simmons hype because he was a man with a position.  Too big and slow to play safety, too lite to play LB. He had limited value to a base defense; however, the same is not true for Hunter, who has two natural positions.  If we draft him, I'd use him as a CB and KR/PR.  However, I prefer Carter, if he's available at 3, which seems like a long shot.

[madbadger]

I have come to conclusion that getting Sanders or Ward seems unlikely


But Hunter is not a bad option either... BUT how elite is he on either side of the  ball ? It seems like the census is he will be a full time corner with sprinkled in offense... sounds like a great problem too have.... but is he ELITE as a CB ? Or is there a better corner in the draft ?

It seems like their is a bonafide CB or pass rusher that could be had


Im just getting Isiah Simmons vibes here ... tweener in College who dominated but didn't translate well to the NFL

Hunter is an otherworldly athlete with great instincts who plays football. By that I mean he isn't a polished route runner or a technically sound corner but he's so athletic and has such a feel for the game that he's elite at the college level. The million dollar question becomes what happens when he goes up against players who are just as athletic as he is in the NFL? Is his route running or technique at corner good enough to win? IMHO the jury is out on that one. Of the position players that could go in the top 5 or 6 picks he is the most likely to be a bust. As a pure corner I like Johnson better and as a pure receiver I like McMillan better. Since he really can't play both in the NFL why would you take him over those two?