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Cam Ward VS Shedeur Sanders VS Jaxson Dart

Started by MightyGiants, February 02, 2025, 05:19:06 PM

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Jclayton92

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 19, 2025, 01:47:20 PMhttps://x.com/MikeLucasTV/status/1902414437136408760
I was talking to some of the boosters and scouts the other day at Ole Miss' spring practice and asked them why we(Ole Miss) or any SEC team never went after Shough. In the 7 games he played in as a backup at Oregon in 2020 he went like 107 of 167 for 1550 and 13 tds. Teams should have been salivating to sign him especially considering he was a highly ranked recruit coming out of high school but there was nothing, crickets. He settled on Texas Tech, which is a long fall for his pedigree and tape. Then he couldn't win the starting job over a beer salesmen at Texas Tech. Then he transfers again and no one really lined up wanting him, and he went to Louisville. From what they told me there are some serious concerns there with attitude, laziness, and so on. That's why he didn't really start at Texas tech when he was injured. He was in the same high school class as Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence which is bonkers in its on way. Anyways take that with a grain of salt but the were insistent that Tyler was a problem, he thought he was "Gods gift to football" and everyone else was just meh.

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Quote from: Jclayton92 on March 21, 2025, 01:20:51 PMI was talking to some of the boosters and scouts the other day at Ole Miss' spring practice and asked them why we(Ole Miss) or any SEC team never went after Shough. In the 7 games he played in as a backup at Oregon in 2020 he went like 107 of 167 for 1550 and 13 tds. Teams should have been salivating to sign him especially considering he was a highly ranked recruit coming out of high school but there was nothing, crickets. He settled on Texas Tech, which is a long fall for his pedigree and tape. Then he couldn't win the starting job over a beer salesmen at Texas Tech. Then he transfers again and no one really lined up wanting him, and he went to Louisville. From what they told me there are some serious concerns there with attitude, laziness, and so on. That's why he didn't really start at Texas tech when he was injured. He was in the same high school class as Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence which is bonkers in its on way. Anyways take that with a grain of salt but the were insistent that Tyler was a problem, he thought he was "Gods gift to football" and everyone else was just meh.

Thanks for the intel, Jess.  It's possible with age came maturity and a better attitude
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Why Shedeur Sanders is the 2025 NFL Draft's top quarterback; plus, four ideal team fits
Published: Mar 21, 2025 at 06:03 PM
Author
Bucky Brooks

https://www.nfl.com/news/why-shedeur-sanders-is-the-2025-nfl-draft-s-top-quarterback-plus-four-ideal-team-fits
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katkavage

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 23, 2025, 09:00:15 AMWhy Shedeur Sanders is the 2025 NFL Draft's top quarterback; plus, four ideal team fits
Published: Mar 21, 2025 at 06:03 PM
Author
Bucky Brooks

https://www.nfl.com/news/why-shedeur-sanders-is-the-2025-nfl-draft-s-top-quarterback-plus-four-ideal-team-fits
Which is why he and Ward will probably go one and two.

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From Walter Football


I surveyed team sources to see if they thought Dart was a legitimate first-round pick. Out of 10 teams surveyed, nine of them said no, he was not a legit first-rounder. The Steelers can now be added to that group to make it 10 out of 11.

https://walterfootball.com/steelers-dont-value-dart-as-a-1st-rounder.php
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katkavage

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 24, 2025, 01:04:52 PMFrom Walter Football


I surveyed team sources to see if they thought Dart was a legitimate first-round pick. Out of 10 teams surveyed, nine of them said no, he was not a legit first-rounder. The Steelers can now be added to that group to make it 10 out of 11.

https://walterfootball.com/steelers-dont-value-dart-as-a-1st-rounder.php
I think teams are wary of kids who rise up so fast with excess hype. It got Daniel Jones picked much higher than where he was during the season before the Senior Bowl. The consensus is and will remain Ward and Sanders. The Giants will try to pick one of those two.

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Shedeur Sanders – Episode #1 | NFL Pre-Draft 2025 | Kurt Warner Breaks Down the Game Tape

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Gmo11

Quote from: katkavage on March 24, 2025, 06:49:49 PMI think teams are wary of kids who rise up so fast with excess hype. It got Daniel Jones picked much higher than where he was during the season before the Senior Bowl. The consensus is and will remain Ward and Sanders. The Giants will try to pick one of those two.

Dave Gettleman got Daniel Jones picked much higher than he was before the Senior Bowl.  Because he fell "full bloom in love" during that week.  No other GM with any sense about him would have taken him with the 6th pick.  Or perhaps even any 1st round pick at all.  It was just Gettleman doing his usual "I'm smarter than everybody else" schtick.  That never worked out a single time.

MightyGiants

When I compare the college careers of Daniel Jones and Jaxson Dart, I am utterly baffled by anyone trying to use Daniel Jones as a comparison for Dart.  :-??
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katkavage

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 25, 2025, 11:19:52 AMWhen I compare the college careers of Daniel Jones and Jaxson Dart, I am utterly baffled by anyone trying to use Daniel Jones as a comparison for Dart.  :-??
Who is comparing their careers?

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Quote from: katkavage on March 25, 2025, 11:25:50 AMWho is comparing their careers?

When you compare Dart with Jones, you bring their respective resumes, regardless if that was your intention.
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katkavage

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 25, 2025, 11:40:30 AMWhen you compare Dart with Jones, you bring their respective resumes, regardless if that was your intention.
Wrong. I was making a comparison on how QB prospects sometimes rise late in the draft process. It has nothing to do with their resumes as college players. Dart has consistently been seen as a second round prospect for the NFL draft. Now after the Senior Bowl and combine some (but most don't) as possibly a top ten pick. It's similar to the Jones scenario. Absolutely nothing to do with their college careers.