Cam Ward VS Shedeur Sanders VS Jaxson Dart

[MightyGiants]

Sanders would have been a good fit for Denver. He's a system QB. His supporting cast was crap. Especially his Oline and that Offensive playbook. Leonard and Shough impressed me. Although Leonard takes me back to his failures on the field in games and I don't know Shough at all.

I heard an interview with Schough, very impressive young man.  He has 4 degrees.  His injuries concern me, the age less so.  If the Giants want to take a chance on a QB this draft with an eye towards next year if it doesn't work out, I could think of worse ideas than taking Schough in round 2.

[katkavage]

Nice discourse on all the QBs. Barring a trade back, the Giants will take either Ward or Sanders.

[MightyGiants]

Nice discourse on all the QBs. Barring a trade back, the Giants will take either Ward or Sanders.

I'm not sold on the Giants' interest in Sanders.  We saw lots of footage and reports that the Giants were at Colorado, but that came from the Sanders' camp, not NYG.   From what I understand, the Giants spent as much time at Miami, but it just wasn't plastered all over social media.  I can't see the Giants drafting the son of Prime Time and a QB who has his own podcast.  That's beyond the fact that I suspect Sanders' ceiling is low level starter high end backup.

[MightyGiants]

https://x.com/JordanRaanan/status/1896200851548672033

[katkavage]

I'm not sold on the Giants' interest in Sanders.  We saw lots of footage and reports that the Giants were at Colorado, but that came from the Sanders' camp, not NYG.   From what I understand, the Giants spent as much time at Miami, but it just wasn't plastered all over social media.  I can't see the Giants drafting the son of Prime Time and a QB who has his own podcast.  That's beyond the fact that I suspect Sanders' ceiling is low level starter high end backup.

Could be. All we know for sure is that the Giants GM has been ordered to find a difference make QB and win in 2025 or he is gone.

[Ed Vette]

At this point, I see a consensus developing that Ward may go top 3, Sanders top 15 and Dart maybe in round 2.  His stats have baked in them too many primary read throws which is not how the NFL defense is set up as it is too tight a coverage.  I think folks think his read progression is not far enough along. 

I know you're right. I just think the demand for a QB may drive him up. Here is the reality of drafting Dart.

https://youtu.be/9tmEM4efbRs?si=p8EkqYFk52zQ2ntq

[Jclayton92]

I think the System Dart was in is just a weak excuse to not do a deep dive on him, same with the Corral comparison, and kiffin despite turning a safety into a 2× national champion can't develop NFL Qb talent.

The fact is that 95% of college Qbs run a system with 1 or 2 primary reads. Ohio St couldn't ever have a successful NFL QB until Stroud happened. Jayden Daniels ran basically the same offense as Dart with slight variations but he wasn't a gimmick Qb. Hendon hooked ran an identical offense to Dart but he wasn't a system qb. Seems like that's a lazy narrative to go with at this point especially with the 15 seconds that Qbs have to talk with their hc before each play, the hc just points out the 2 hot reads based on how the defense lines up. That's on the college game changing and every qb doing that, not just Dart, but because it's convenient let's ding Dart for it.

[MightyGiants]

SiriusXM NFL Radio Jim Miller (former NFL QB) on quarterbacks

[Gmo11]

Dart was impressive at the combine.  Enough so to where I now have him neck and neck with Sanders as QB2 and to be perfectly honest for the Giants offense I think he's a better fit than Sanders.  Mainly because of the running ability and the stronger arm. 

Ward is the best in this class.  That's been the case throughout the entire process and nothing has moved me off of that.  But Dart is an intriguing prospect and while it might be a little high to pick him at #3 if Ward goes #1 and not to the Giants they might just have to take Dart at #3.  Because at least to me I think there's a pretty large gap from Dart to the next QB.

[brownelvis54]

Daniel Jeremiah: Why NFL Scouts are Split on Colorado QB Shedeur Sanders

[sxdxca38]

I've seen both interviews of Sanders and Dart, and I like both of them. I would say both are good guys.

However, in Dart's interview, he seems a bit sharper mentally and has a good personality as well. Combined that he's a big Star Wars fan, I like that.

I do think the Giants draft one of these three QB's though, and if they don't trade up, it'll be the one that falls to them.

More than likely Ward will go first, and then it'll be between Dart and Sanders, and whichever one is there I believe the Giants will take.

[MightyGiants]

https://x.com/2highcoverage/status/1896352157315870818?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ

[Ed Vette]

https://x.com/2highcoverage/status/1896352157315870818?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ

Please...

I may not want Sanders for the Giants but let's give this tough son of a gun some credit playing behind a worse Offense Line than DJ ever faced. It's not that long and if you want to see what Shedeur Sanders brings to the table, this is the one to watch. I'm more concerned about him taking a sack on a free play than the fact that he doesn't have a Josh Allen arm. Just watch what this kid can do. 

[Ed Vette]

A week from tomorrow FA starts with negotiations. By the end of next week let's see if we really care about any of these QBs in the first round anymore.

[Philosophers]

I think the System Dart was in is just a weak excuse to not do a deep dive on him, same with the Corral comparison, and kiffin despite turning a safety into a 2× national champion can't develop NFL Qb talent.

The fact is that 95% of college Qbs run a system with 1 or 2 primary reads. Ohio St couldn't ever have a successful NFL QB until Stroud happened. Jayden Daniels ran basically the same offense as Dart with slight variations but he wasn't a gimmick Qb. Hendon hooked ran an identical offense to Dart but he wasn't a system qb. Seems like that's a lazy narrative to go with at this point especially with the 15 seconds that Qbs have to talk with their hc before each play, the hc just points out the 2 hot reads based on how the defense lines up. That's on the college game changing and every qb doing that, not just Dart, but because it's convenient let's ding Dart for it.

Hooker was a system QB as well.  Tennessee WRs run probably the fewest routes in the route tree and most importantly s straight outside the hashmarks.