Wilson having dinner with Schoen and mara

[killarich]

I don't like him as a person. It has nothing to do with politics.

From a football perspective, he's fragile and an injury waiting to happen,on the wrong side of 40, got a GM and HC fired (might be a positive for some), and will be available weekly distraction.

For me, the cons outweigh the pros.

Ok I understand a bit more ... if that's how you feel then that's how you feel

[DaveBrown74]

Is it clear that Rodgers is better than Wilson at this point? It's not entirely obvious to me that he is.

[Trench]

Is it clear that Rodgers is better than Wilson at this point? It's not entirely obvious to me that he is.

To me it's crystal clear Rodgers is better. Especially with a good oline (which I DO believe we have) based on early last year with Thomas.

Rodgers showed me he gets it out quick still while Wilson had some strange decisions late in the season.

But Rodgers diva stuff is really starting to grow negatively on me as he can't make a damn decision

[Gman329]

To me it's crystal clear Rodgers is better. Especially with a good oline (which I DO believe we have) based on early last year with Thomas.

Rodgers showed me he gets it out quick still while Wilson had some strange decisions late in the season.

But Rodgers diva stuff is really starting to grow negatively on me as he can't make a damn decision

Trench, I agree that Rodgers is better than Wilson but I just have the feeling, if we hold out for Rodgers, Wilson will move on and take another offer......and Rodgers will screw us in the end.  I think he's waiting on Minnesota and Pittsburgh is his second choice.  I hope we sign Wilson today.

[Hadron]

Wilson makes me 

[Trench]

Trench, I agree that Rodgers is better than Wilson but I just have the feeling, if we hold out for Rodgers, Wilson will move on and take another offer......and Rodgers will screw us in the end.  I think he's waiting on Minnesota and Pittsburgh is his second choice.  I hope we sign Wilson today.

I agree. At this point I'd rather we simply sign Wilson

[Gmo11]

I honestly don't think Rodgers is much better if better at all than Wilson.  Wilson had a rough stretch at the end of the season but go back and look at the teams they were losing to.  It was a murder's row of the best teams in the sport.  Rodgers on the other hand only started playing well when the season was effectively over for the Jets.  And the reason the season was effectively over for the Jets was in large part due to his ineffective play.  Then when you factor in all of the B.S. that comes along with Rodgers they should not hesitate to tell him to kick rocks and just sign Wilson already.  Or do the smart thing and play the rookie but thanks to Mara's idiotic mandate I don't know if that's even on the table right now.

[andrew_nyGiants]

When teams evaluate players for the NFL draft they are not limiting the evaluation to athleticism or how well they play the position, or their level of intelligence. They also look closely at their emotional maturity, how much of a team player they are and how much they can contribute to a winning culture.

I have to believe they take these same things into account with free agent acquisitions, But for some strange reason, teams continue to give Aarod a pass on being a culture killer. He continues to show us who he is, why do we refuse do believe him. It's time to cut the cord here.

[Jclayton92]

When teams evaluate players for the NFL draft they are not limiting the evaluation to athleticism or how well they play the position, or their level of intelligence. They also look closely at their emotional maturity, how much of a team player they are and how much they can contribute to a winning culture.

I have to believe they take these same things into account with free agent acquisitions, But for some strange reason, teams continue to give Aarod a pass on being a culture killer. He continues to show us who he is, why do we refuse do believe him. It's time to cut the cord here.

He's been an MVP multiple times and a super bowl winner, when did he ever kill a culture? He mentored Love up until the moment he left, which set Green Bay up for success once he was gone.

How do we know he was the one that killed the culture with the Jets? Saleh was on the hot seat and throwing every single thing he could at the wall to see if it would stick.

Rodgers was coming off the Achilles which notoriously take a year and half to recover from and you saw that in his game as he got back to full form once the season ended.

[Jclayton92]

Is it clear that Rodgers is better than Wilson at this point? It's not entirely obvious to me that he is.

Yeah by a country mile. What people don't realize is that Russell Wilson with the Seahawks was a mirage. While they never had a good pass blocking oline, they had a good run blocking oline, and set it up so that when Wilson did pass it was in a rollout, play action, or scramble, typically to a hot read or a primary read. He was never a traditional qb and rarely targeted the middle of the field when he did throw. This is what the Broncos figured out when they signed him, and then later the steelers. It really showed up down the stretch for the steelers when he'd either get his first read or take a sack.

[andrew_nyGiants]

You make some valid points clayton, but I remember him going at it pretty heavy with McCarthy not long before McCarthy was gone from Green Bay.

The entire QB situation was a clown show with the Jets, so much so that Glenn upon his arrival, shared a clear set of expectations for Rodgers and in no time, Rodgers was gone. Something was amiss, and perhaps it wasn't all Rodgers, but it looks and smells like he contributed to the poor culture.

Now that he's negotiating with teams, it looks and smells like he's not really negotiating in good faith. It looks like he's leveraging NY and Pitt against MN, trying to get signed by the Vikings.

When it looks like a duck...

[Trench]

Yeah by a country mile. What people don't realize is that Russell Wilson with the Seahawks was a mirage. While they never had a good pass blocking oline, they had a good run blocking oline, and set it up so that when Wilson did pass it was in a rollout, play action, or scramble, typically to a hot read or a primary read. He was never a traditional qb and rarely targeted the middle of the field when he did throw. This is what the Broncos figured out when they signed him, and then later the steelers. It really showed up down the stretch for the steelers when he'd either get his first read or take a sack.

Well now you have me hoping for Rodgers again - after I was all but done with the guy.

You make excellent points.

[Jclayton92]

Well now you have me hoping for Rodgers again - after I was all but done with the guy.

You make excellent points.

Wilson just isn't athletic like he once was which diminishes what he did at an elite level.

[Trench]

The lack of anything from Schoen makes me uncomfortable

[spiderblue43]

Russell Wilson will do little to save Dabes and Schoen. Both be Schoen the door.,because he can't attack the mid field at all..throws his moon 50/50 balls and has lost elusiveness.

But wait..the rookie QB comes in week eight or nine..to bring hope in a another losing season..pathetic.