Draft needs after a week of free agency

[MightyGiants]

FWIW I think we have three absolute needs (through remaining free agency and the draft) as a starter. Of course we have a lengthy catalogue of positions needing either rotational pieces or upgraded depth because we are not very good:

Starters
QB
3T
RG

Rotational
OLB/Edge
NT
WR
RB

Depth
C/G
Swing T
CB
ILB
ST coverage units

My wildcard is K. Is Gano healthy and fully effective? If not can McAtamney do it? If not?

If we hit the three key needs we have a chance to be competitive if we get some luck with lower draft picks helping rotation/depth, picking up camp cuts and minimising injuries. IF!!

They do have Van Roten and Neal as potential RGs. 

[londonblue]

They do Mighty but ideally GVR is C/G depth though I like him as a solid pro. Relying on Neal is not something that makes me comfy. Draft a credible guy R2/3 and make Neal beat him out.

[Trench]

Here are the biggest needs I see put in three buckets

Must have

Franchise QB
3 Tech DT
Backup NT

Want to have

Offensive lineman (guard or tackle)
Edge Rusher to add to rotation


Would like to have

RB to pair with Tracy
More O-line
Another WR
ILB

Rich,
Forgive me for not knowing but what does "3 Tech" mean?

[MightyGiants]

Rich,
Forgive me for not knowing but what does "3 Tech" mean?

You usually have two defensive tackles.  The larger one usually lines up over the center.   That's where Dex nows plays. The other DT lines up over the guard.  He is usually lighter and quicker and provides more pass rush.

If you want a more in depth explanation of the numbering system, I recommend this site.

https://www.viqtorysports.com/understanding-defensive-techniques/

[Trench]

You usually have two defensive tackles.  The larger one usually lines up over the center.   That's where Dex nows plays. The other DT lines up over the guard.  He is usually lighter and quicker and provides more pass rush.

If you want a more in depth explanation of the numbering system, I recommend this site.

https://www.viqtorysports.com/understanding-defensive-techniques/

Thank you.

So, does "3 Tech" refer to the 2 DT we would have next to Dex?

On a side note on DT, I really liked what I saw out of Chatham last year. He's an I interesting player. Seems like he's around the ball.

[Philosophers]

I truly think RG or RT are the next most important Giants needs to fill after QB.  We'll be a top 15 D team without a 3 tech DT.

[MightyGiants]

Thank you.

So, does "3 Tech" refer to the 2 DT we would have next to Dex?

On a side note on DT, I really liked what I saw out of Chatham last year. He's an I interesting player. Seems like he's around the ball.

The 3 tech is usually the players to Dex's right. The player to his left is a DE or LB acting a DE role.


Chapman and Nacho usually played the 3 tech.   Burns is usually to Dex's left.

[Trench]

The 3 tech is usually the players to Dex's right. The player to his left is a DE or LB acting a DE role.


Chapman and Nacho usually played the 3 tech.   Burns is usually to Dex's left.

Got it thank u.

Never knew any of that.

[uconnjack8]

I truly think RG or RT are the next most important Giants needs to fill after QB.  We'll be a top 15 D team without a 3 tech DT.

Joe,

I'm with you here.  Making a significant upgrade on the IOL will have a significant ROI IMO.

I agree a 3 technique is a need , but a lot has already been done on the defensive side of the ball. 

[Philosophers]

Joe,

I'm with you here.  Making a significant upgrade on the IOL will have a significant ROI IMO.

I agree a 3 technique is a need , but a lot has already been done on the defensive side of the ball. 

Matt - I've got to think if they secure a QB in either round 1 or 2, they are going to give him additional resources to protect him as well as additional weapons.  As you noted, their big ticket FA moves were on defense.  They can afford to spend on the O and 1-2 draft picks on the OL, especially of starting caliber OL players could go a long way.  Imagine say they draft a QB at 3, then go for someone like Donovan Jackson, Guard from Ohio State in round 2 then say Ozzy Trapilo, RT from Boston College in round 3.  I believe both Jackson and Trapilo would be starters immediately, but if one was not, then you put JE there and let the other rookie start next to him while developing the other.  They can add a dynamic RB threat such as RJ Harvey later maybe in round 5 to platoon with Tyrone Tracy.  We all know it is the offense holding us back.

[Ed Vette]

Garrett Bradbury cut by the Vikings. 29 years old. An upgrade over JMS?

[spiderblue43]

Garrett Bradbury cut by the Vikings. 29 years old. An upgrade over JMS?

JMS? He's hard not to be an upgrade from somewhere.. adequate at best..overpowered mostly..just really a guy.

[kartanoman]

Matt - I've got to think if they secure a QB in either round 1 or 2, they are going to give him additional resources to protect him as well as additional weapons.  As you noted, their big ticket FA moves were on defense.  They can afford to spend on the O and 1-2 draft picks on the OL, especially of starting caliber OL players could go a long way.  Imagine say they draft a QB at 3, then go for someone like Donovan Jackson, Guard from Ohio State in round 2 then say Ozzy Trapilo, RT from Boston College in round 3.  I believe both Jackson and Trapilo would be starters immediately, but if one was not, then you put JE there and let the other rookie start next to him while developing the other.  They can add a dynamic RB threat such as RJ Harvey later maybe in round 5 to platoon with Tyrone Tracy.  We all know it is the offense holding us back.

Your recommendation would be a draft dream come true. I'm on board with the win-win proposition of getting the QB AND two offensive linemen in the first two days and buying all-in to the future of this team.

With the rest of the draft, take care of the defensive needs and you can have Harvey (NOTE: I'd love to see Schoen and Daboll get ballsy and take a chance on Arizona State's Cam Skattebo with their fourth round pick if he's still available. Maybe even consider the Giants' third round comp pick for him. He's going to be a hell of a player for some team so why not the Giants?

Peace!

[Philosophers]

Your recommendation would be a draft dream come true. I'm on board with the win-win proposition of getting the QB AND two offensive linemen in the first two days and buying all-in to the future of this team.

With the rest of the draft, take care of the defensive needs and you can have Harvey (NOTE: I'd love to see Schoen and Daboll get ballsy and take a chance on Arizona State's Cam Skattebo with their fourth round pick if he's still available. Maybe even consider the Giants' third round comp pick for him. He's going to be a hell of a player for some team so why not the Giants?

Peace!

I think Mara realizes he erred with Daniel Jones but he also realizes he did him no favors with a porous OL.  I doubt he makes that mistake again.  He will push JS/BD that if they draft a QB, they load that side up to protect him.  I even think if they draft say Carter or Hunter in round 1 and then draft a QB in round 2, their mindset will be the same in terms of OL help in rounds 3-4 and a dynamic offensive player in round 5 or later.

[kartanoman]

I think Mara realizes he erred with Daniel Jones but he also realizes he did him no favors with a porous OL.  I doubt he makes that mistake again.  He will push JS/BD that if they draft a QB, they load that side up to protect him.  I even think if they draft say Carter or Hunter in round 1 and then draft a QB in round 2, their mindset will be the same in terms of OL help in rounds 3-4 and a dynamic offensive player in round 5 or later.

I see it the same way. To not to so could yield another 2024 fiasco this team cannot afford to fall into.

Peace!