Don't worry, they got this? How certain are you of Schoen and Daboll?

[MightyGiants]

How comfortable are you that Schoen and Daboll have a sound and doable plan to turn things around?  How sure are you that, come the start of the season, the dark days of most of the past decade are behind us?

How certain are you that Schoen and Daboll know what they are doing and will do the right things to turn things around?

[ozzie]

Some good / some bad so far in their tenure. I voted option #4.
Individually, I have more faith in Schoen than I do in Daboll. Fingers crossed for the draft and the upcoming season.

[T200]

How comfortable are you that Schoen and Daboll have a sound and doable plan to turn things around? 

I am very comfortable that they have a plan and that it would work. The wildcard factor is Mara and his meddlers.

How sure are you that, come the start of the season, the dark days of most of the past decade are behind us?

There is no FA/draft scenario that will guarantee that. Getting out of the dark days is not a flip of some sort of switch. It's a multi-year process that will happen with gradual improvement. I don't know that Schoen/Daboll will be around after this season to right the ship without Meddlin' Mara influencing decisions.

How certain are you that Schoen and Daboll know what they are doing and will do the right things to turn things around?

Less certain than I have been. I'm still in their corner but feel like I'm slowly backing out with every questionable decision they make.

[spiderblue43]

I'd say it is very sketchy, at best, and desperation is a losing strategy. The schedule looks crushing...so this draft is where everything rides and how either lunk headed or adroit they are managing it.

I give them some rope to start with...fair enough and what camp looks like..but no way will they survive a 2 and 7..2 and 8 start, plus they don't find a QB to develop..and hit on picks...without surrending draft capital

Next month is critical for Dabes and Schoen. Obviously

[MrGap92]

I am very comfortable that they have a plan and that it would work. The wildcard factor is Mara and his meddlers.
There is no FA/draft scenario that will guarantee that. Getting out of the dark days is not a flip of some sort of switch. It's a multi-year process that will happen with gradual improvement. I don't know that Schoen/Daboll will be around after this season to right the ship without Meddlin' Mara influencing decisions.
Less certain than I have been. I'm still in their corner but feel like I'm slowly backing out with every questionable decision they make.

I agree with this 99%

My only concern, is now that they are free of DJ, which took their entire tenure to be free of, that time is not in their favor. The moves they have made this offseason have been good moves, and nothing comes off as desperate. Just not a great year to need a QB. This is not to say they are without faults, this team is more talented than most give credit for. With a QB, IOL, DT and a break on health. They can be a wild card team. To go beyond that they will need a bit more juice, but not a bridge to cross just yet.

[andrew_nyGiants]

Big doubts in large part because of DJ, Neal and Saquon. It's like they didn't know what to do in each of those situations and in there own way each burned us badly.

But I'm a SICK, OBSESSED  Giants fanatic so I REFUSE to give up! 

[Gmo11]

If it wasn't for Aaron Rodgers I'd be very comfortable with everything going on right now.  I thought the team was pretty good minus the QB last year, I think they're even better (minus the QB) this year.  I think one of the rookies or Wilson or Winston or Flacco or whoever could probably get this team to 7 wins more or less and if not at least make them competitive given the insane schedule they're about to face.  Which is more than we can say they've been for the better part of a decade.

But this Aaron Rodgers thing....man....You would have to be some kind of stupid to be sitting around waiting on the whims of a crazy person to decide if you should hand him the keys to the franchise.  This is lying season, and maybe in the end cooler heads prevail, but that situation alone right now makes it so I have to pick the middle ground of I have no idea one way or the other.

[londonblue]

9-7-1
6-11
3-14

Looked at like that 0-17 should not be discounted yet I do think we have some good players in important positions and the draft assets to add more so there should be some hope.

We all know it comes down to QB. If they can secure both a short and medium term QB solution they have a chance to start to reverse the decline and possibly extend their stay. I reckon it is about a 20% chance but not impossible.

Quick edit to add: I see more evidence that Schoen reflects, owns his mistakes and acts to adjust them. When things go wrong looking from the outside in Daboll seems to shrink inwards, get taciturn/edgy and not necessarily generate positivity. However GM and HC have different kinds of scrutiny and I do think it is harder to be the HC of a losing team.

[ViewFromSection129]

So i picked option three. I truly feel like Schoen has a plan and I'm happy that he didn't spend in free agency as I feared... meaning going 100mph and signing everyone and screwing our salary cap to save his job.

This said,  he hasn't proven to be able to acquire enough quality,  and only last year's draft looks good so far.  This is a coin flip to me,  and it'll be determined on what he does with QB, including if he forces one at third overall.

[Painter]

Like the answer to such question, even as qualified to taste, is somehow revealing and meaningful to other than those willing to similarly engage in feckless intellectual onanism about such a matter must be acknowledged as exquisite, or otherwise something not quite.

Cheers!

[Philosophers]

I know they believe in themselves.

[nb587]

I'm glad they were both brought back; it would have disturbed me if they were let go unless we knew exactly who we were getting and had a successful track record.  That was not going to happen. 

As weird as this sounds, the worst thing that happened to this organization was having a successful 2022.  They inherited a crappy team and through some good coaching and alot of luck found some success with a flawed roster and a bad QB.  The next year the league adjusted and Jones was not able to readjust.

For me, Daboll made mistakes in 2023& 24. it was still a bad roster with no QB.  But, still coach of the year not that long ago.  He'll have more talent this year and a better QB in Winston or better.  Schoen probably understood that 2022 was lucky and didnt go all in after that but we were still a bad team in cap hell drafting late in the 23 draft.  If his 2024 draft was like the previous 2 years, I would have wanted him gone but 24 looks very good.  When you add  in Mara's meddling with Barkley and especially Jones, I say keep Schoen. I'm impressed with his approach to free agency this year and am very curious about his upcoming draft picks

[coggs]

Hard for me to judge as I don't really think replacing them will make a difference.  Too many people who can't be fired have a seat at the table.  Until that changes, it doesn't matter who has the GM title.  So, I voted for "not sure...."

[kartanoman]

Even though last night a did sleep like a baby, only because I spent half a day installing one of those hanging storage units in my garage yesterday, I chose the same for Schoen and Daboll.

Now why would I do that?

Here's what I'm thinking. The whole world thinks they're under this enormous pressure to produce or else. But the reality is:

1. Their selection positions in the draft offer them the chance to load up on top quality talent and depth.

2. Their off-season is not being scrutinized with "Hard Knocks" cameras in every corner of their building.

3. The position of quarterback now rests solely in their control.

4. They have lessons learned from the last two seasons which they WILL use to improve the team overall.

The key variable which will dictate how successful they can be is, of course, the Lost Man-Games due to Injury metric, by starters and by impact players. This area always sets the tempo for the other KPIs monitored for overall success.

Having this poll AFTER the draft, in my opinion, might have been a better idea and, perhaps we should resurrect it after the fact to see if we would change our positions based on whom the Giants select.

Peace!