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Giants add another low end WR

Started by MightyGiants, March 22, 2025, 01:23:00 PM

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Pascal, 30, is a seven-year veteran who spent four seasons with the Indianapolis Colts, one with the Philadelphia Eagles and the last two years with the Arizona Cardinals. Giants wide receivers coach Mike Groh was was Pascal in Indianapolis in 2020 and 2021 when he caught a combined 82 passes.

Pascal, 6-foot-2, 215 pounds, played only 68 offensive snaps for the Cardinals in 2024. He was never targeted. He did play a career-high 278 special teams snaps, the third consecutive season in which he played more than 200 special teams snaps.

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madbadger

Schoen loves his garbage. How many one dimensional special teams players does he need?

kingm56

Quote from: madbadger on March 22, 2025, 01:36:20 PMSchoen loves his garbage. How many one dimensional special teams players does he need?

For heavens sake...it's a camp body; every year, every team, signs veteran WRs to fill out thier roster and teach the younger players. 

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Giants add another veteran to the wide receiver room. The projected depth chart:

Malik Nabers
Darius Slayton
Wan'Dale Robinson
Lil'Jordan Humphrey
Ihmir Smith-Marsette
Jalin Hyatt
Zach Pascal
Bryce Ford-Wheaton
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madbadger

Quote from: kingm56 on March 22, 2025, 01:37:36 PMFor heavens sake...it's a camp body; every year, every team, signs veteran WRs to fill out thier roster and teach the younger players. 

How about expending some energy to improve the roster instead of "adding camp bodies". IMHO the goal of free agency is to improve your team. He's still sitting on a chunk kid cap space and we have holes to fill and he's adding flotsam and jetsam.

londonblue

Three consecutive years of 200+ special team snaps is the key to understand this signing. Improving ST improves the team.
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kingm56

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Quote from: madbadger on March 22, 2025, 02:06:29 PMHow about expending some energy to improve the roster instead of "adding camp bodies". IMHO the goal of free agency is to improve your team. He's still sitting on a chunk kid cap space and we have holes to fill and he's adding flotsam and jetsam.

I fail to understand your logic. Every GM ensures their roster has enough players to support a productive training camp, mentor younger talent, and provide necessary depth in the event of injuries. Yet, you appear to conflate this roster-building strategy with "wasting energy." Furthermore, your post implies that signing new players follows a strictly linear process, which seems odd. It is far more likely that the Giants have multiple offers pending with various free agents. Adding a veteran on a minimum contract hardly constitutes expending superfluous effort, nor does it interfere with thier efforts to acquire additional talent. These tasks have to be performed, whether they occur in March or June. Finally, what FA is still available that would make an appreciable difference next season?

MrGap92

Quote from: madbadger on March 22, 2025, 02:06:29 PMHow about expending some energy to improve the roster instead of "adding camp bodies". IMHO the goal of free agency is to improve your team. He's still sitting on a chunk kid cap space and we have holes to fill and he's adding flotsam and jetsam.

The team is improved. Not every player is gonna get a $54m contract

madbadger

Quote from: MrGap92 on March 22, 2025, 07:24:13 PMThe team is improved. Not every player is gonna get a $54m contract

I wish I had a dollar for every time I've heard that bs every year for the last decade.

MrGap92

Quote from: kingm56 on March 22, 2025, 05:44:50 PMI fail to understand your logic. Every GM ensures their roster has enough players to support a productive training camp, mentor younger talent, and provide necessary depth in the event of injuries. Yet, you appear to conflate this roster-building strategy with "wasting energy." Furthermore, your post implies that signing new players follows a strictly linear process, which seems odd. It is far more likely that the Giants have multiple offers pending with various free agents. Adding a veteran on a minimum contract hardly constitutes expending superfluous effort, nor does it interfere with thier efforts to acquire additional talent. These tasks have to be performed, whether they occur in March or June. Finally, what FA is still available that would make an appreciable difference next season?

Those who hate Schoen and Daboll are blinded by the hate. The b****ing and moaning negativity will exist no matter what they do. It's exhausting but there is no pleasing some fans. They ignore the good, magnify the bad, and complain about all of it with a fiery pitchfork in their hand, as they say its a throwaway season while also complaining about not being good enough. Makes no sense.

Brooklyn Dave

Quote from: MrGap92 on March 22, 2025, 08:27:45 PMThose who hate Schoen and Daboll are blinded by the hate. The b****ing and moaning negativity will exist no matter what they do. It's exhausting but there is no pleasing some fans. They ignore the good, magnify the bad, and complain about all of it with a fiery pitchfork in their hand, as they say its a throwaway season while also complaining about not being good enough. Makes no sense.

Gap, the hate for Schoen and Dabol in my opinion is based on the following :
 
1- Giving Jones a $40 million contract and then dropping him

2- Not resigning Barkly and letting him walk fore nothing to the Eagles

3- Seeing the team's record worse each year

4- Not losing to the Colts last year and preserving the number 1 pick in the draft.

MrGap92

Quote from: Brooklyn Dave on March 22, 2025, 11:42:57 PMGap, the hate for Schoen and Dabol in my opinion is based on the following :
 
1- Giving Jones a $40 million contract and then dropping him

2- Not resigning Barkly and letting him walk fore nothing to the Eagles

3- Seeing the team's record worse each year

4- Not losing to the Colts last year and preserving the number 1 pick in the draft.

You can't fault a coach or GM for losing a game, thats ridiculous. Is it better to lose? Yes, but at the same time no coach is gonna purposely do that. How would your boss feel if yiu purposely did an awful job at work?

spiderblue43

I'm in the camp that Robinson is garbage. Glad that Slayton returned..but I really want him challenged in camp..perhaps cut. He catches dinks..and dunks..falls down..

Another Schoen Misfire. Plus Hyatt..oh boy.

Brooklyn Dave

Quote from: MrGap92 on March 23, 2025, 12:43:43 AMYou can't fault a coach or GM for losing a game, thats ridiculous. Is it better to lose? Yes, but at the same time no coach is gonna purposely do that. How would your boss feel if yiu purposely did an awful job at work?

That is a bad analogy . The consequences of me purposely doing a bad job was not the same as losing a game. Yes, I do agree that no GM or coach would want to lose a game . They could have started Divito instead of Lock and said that they wanted to see him play a full game for the future. He might have won but that was a risk. They could have played Nabers for only one half etc.

 Winning that game potentially could change the future of the franchise . The optimum  word here is ," potentially "

I only gave that reason for the hatred of Schoen and Daboll as a possibility , but my first three examples were much more prevalent in the reason.