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Steelers believe Rodgers will visit the Giants

Started by MightyGiants, March 24, 2025, 01:00:14 PM

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So what's next? Well, Steelers folks seemed to think coming out of their meeting that he'd probably do a similar day with the Giants to get a vibe for their building, and what head coach Brian Daboll and GM Joe Schoen have built. Unlike the Steelers, the Giants would look to Rodgers to do what the Jets envisioned him accomplishing and lift a growing, young core brimming with potential within a franchise that's fallen on hard times.

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 As I understand it, the Giants' decision to sign Jameis Winston will not impact their pursuit of Rodgers. It does make signing Russell Wilson less likely though—I'm really not sure where Wilson finds a landing spot, given the current landscape.

https://www.si.com/nfl/aaron-rodgers-longs-for-nostalgia-takeaways
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Gmo11

I refuse to believe this is true.  It can't be.  Schoen and the rest can float out all the xxxxxxxx they want to throw people off their scent and that's great but they cannot seriously be considering this now.  They can't possibly be that stupid.

MightyGiants

Quote from: Gmo11 on March 24, 2025, 01:45:55 PMI refuse to believe this is true.  It can't be.  Schoen and the rest can float out all the xxxxxxxx they want to throw people off their scent and that's great but they cannot seriously be considering this now.  They can't possibly be that stupid.

I think the key is the "Steelers" believe.  It's possible that Rodgers simply did a good job selling the Steelers on the idea that he is a hot commodity.
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DaveBrown74

Quote from: Gmo11 on March 24, 2025, 01:45:55 PMI refuse to believe this is true.  It can't be.  Schoen and the rest can float out all the xxxxxxxx they want to throw people off their scent and that's great but they cannot seriously be considering this now.  They can't possibly be that stupid.

While my firm base case is Rodgers does not sign with the Giants, we have to remember that what is stupid to us is not necessarily stupid if you're in Daboll's and Schoen's shoes right now. They have been given an ultimatum to win more games now or else. Now means 2025. Mara said to the public that he better feel a lot better one year from his press conference last month for these guys to keep their jobs going into 2026. I think we can all agree that he won't feel better if they lose the same or a similar amount of games. So he's essentially telling them to win now or take a hike.

With all of the above in mind, I can see why they might want to bring Rodgers in. It's a dumb move from any rational fan's perspective, especially if it involves a multi-year commitment that can't easily be escaped after 2025, but if it were any of our livelihoods on the line here we might feel differently about it.

Unfortunately, this is the dynamic that exists now with this front office and coaching staff.

Gmo11

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on March 24, 2025, 02:38:47 PMWhile my firm base case is Rodgers does not sign with the Giants, we have to remember that what is stupid to us is not necessarily stupid if you're in Daboll's and Schoen's shoes right now. They have been given an ultimatum to win more games now or else. Now means 2025. Mara said to the public that he better feel a lot better one year from his press conference last month for these guys to keep their jobs going into 2026. I think we can all agree that he won't feel better if they lose the same or a similar amount of games. So he's essentially telling them to win now or take a hike.

With all of the above in mind, I can see why they might want to bring Rodgers in. It's a dumb move from any rational fan's perspective, especially if it involves a multi-year commitment that can't easily be escaped after 2025, but if it were any of our livelihoods on the line here we might feel differently about it.

Unfortunately, this is the dynamic that exists now with this front office and coaching staff.

I totally agree that Schoen/Daboll are going to everything in their power to win this year because they have clearly been told that if they don't they're fired.  I disagree with Rodgers being any good or considerably better than Jameis Winston at this point.  And I do not think it's smart to have Rodgers and Winston both on the same team when that spot should be used on a rookie.  If your plan is to bring in both Winston and Rodgers you're essentially betting on Rodgers getting hurt at some point which would be a smart bet.  But if you're already conceding he's going to get hurt, and he most certainly will, then why not just roll with Winston from Day 1 and save the money? 

Another way to look at it is, given the roster as it currently stands, are you going to add more wins to the team by signing Rodgers for let's say 20 million dollars or by signing a new RG? A guy like Scherff or Will Hernandez would start from Day 1 and be a fairly big upgrade over last year, and give them a little more depth to where last year's starter is now a backup.  Is Rodgers THAT much better than Winston?  It's pretty tough to see how. 

So that's why I think it would be idiotic to waste that money on Rodgers.  I would have said it is stupid even before Winston based solely on the fact that he's a crazy person that the Jets wanted no part of.  That's good enough for me to not want to go anywhere near that guy.  But after bringing in Winston, they'd have to be as crazy as Rodgers is to bring him in at this point.

Ed Vette

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on March 24, 2025, 02:38:47 PMWhile my firm base case is Rodgers does not sign with the Giants, we have to remember that what is stupid to us is not necessarily stupid if you're in Daboll's and Schoen's shoes right now. They have been given an ultimatum to win more games now or else. Now means 2025. Mara said to the public that he better feel a lot better one year from his press conference last month for these guys to keep their jobs going into 2026. I think we can all agree that he won't feel better if they lose the same or a similar amount of games. So he's essentially telling them to win now or take a hike.

With all of the above in mind, I can see why they might want to bring Rodgers in. It's a dumb move from any rational fan's perspective, especially if it involves a multi-year commitment that can't easily be escaped after 2025, but if it were any of our livelihoods on the line here we might feel differently about it.

Unfortunately, this is the dynamic that exists now with this front office and coaching staff.
I'm warming up to the prospect of Rodgers being signed. He may be too. There's nowhere he would get more media coverage and there's nowhere to go but up. With the additions the Giants made on Defense and a solid draft, this could be a competitive team. If they don't implode. As Gmo said, is there a better way that spend that money, which would certainly be a three year contract.
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

DaveBrown74

Quote from: Ed Vette on March 24, 2025, 02:58:02 PMI'm warming up to the prospect of Rodgers being signed. He may be too. There's nowhere he would get more media coverage and there's nowhere to go but up. With the additions the Giants made on Defense and a solid draft, this could be a competitive team. If they don't implode. As Gmo said, is there a better way that spend that money, which would certainly be a three year contract.

Rodgers hasn't had a legitimately high level year since 2021. He's been a considerably lesser version of himself (or hurt) since then. I'm not saying he wouldn't be an upgrade to what we previously had, but for a bottom five team in the NFL to make a three year, high dollar commitment, even with a two year out, to a QB who is turning 42 during this season is just nuts in my mind.

Ed Vette

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on March 24, 2025, 04:05:48 PMRodgers hasn't had a legitimately high level year since 2021. He's been a considerably lesser version of himself (or hurt) since then. I'm not saying he wouldn't be an upgrade to what we previously had, but for a bottom five team in the NFL to make a three year, high dollar commitment, even with a two year out, to a QB who is turning 42 during this season is just nuts in my mind.
I agree, but then he's been made an offer and is visiting. Maybe some of this is just a smokescreen and them doing their due diligence on all options. 
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

Trench

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on March 24, 2025, 02:38:47 PMWhile my firm base case is Rodgers does not sign with the Giants, we have to remember that what is stupid to us is not necessarily stupid if you're in Daboll's and Schoen's shoes right now. They have been given an ultimatum to win more games now or else. Now means 2025. Mara said to the public that he better feel a lot better one year from his press conference last month for these guys to keep their jobs going into 2026. I think we can all agree that he won't feel better if they lose the same or a similar amount of games. So he's essentially telling them to win now or take a hike.

With all of the above in mind, I can see why they might want to bring Rodgers in. It's a dumb move from any rational fan's perspective, especially if it involves a multi-year commitment that can't easily be escaped after 2025, but if it were any of our livelihoods on the line here we might feel differently about it.

Unfortunately, this is the dynamic that exists now with this front office and coaching staff.

I agreed with everything you said right up to "it's a dumb move from any rational fan standpoint"....i hane no issue with that being many fans perspective.

I sincerely believe Rodgers has plenty of game left. I remember people thought Goff, Wilson, Darnold, even Stafford a couple years ago were not worth pursuing. I choose to place Rodgers in that group. People can say he's a quack but if we analyzed Jets Hard Knocks, this guy was FANTASTIC with his teammates and especially his QB peers. I believe this is what Daboll sees. Draft a young QB (or best player available and roll with Rodgers/Winston) and get a good winning feeling - and find the QB kid next year. In the meantime, maybe we win several games and have some fun watching Nabers and Theo.

I can see the logic. Rodgers can still play, he will have a NY "chip" on his shoulder, and he will have a 2 year deal of which year 2 he becomes the quintessential mentor. 

Philosophers

So sign Rodgers and Winston and not draft a QB this year?  Is that what folks think?

spiderblue43

Wow..this might qualify as waste, fraud and abuse in football parlance. A Rodge..meet the Pope..he just got released from the hospital..then go on a motivational speaking tour with Tony Robbins..then the Dalai Lama..plus the search in Turkey for Noah's Ark..Area 51..etc. Go away.
 /sarcasm/

BlueMoshik

Quote from: Ed Vette on March 24, 2025, 02:58:02 PMI'm warming up to the prospect of Rodgers being signed. He may be too. There's nowhere he would get more media coverage and there's nowhere to go but up. With the additions the Giants made on Defense and a solid draft, this could be a competitive team. If they don't implode. As Gmo said, is there a better way that spend that money, which would certainly be a three year contract.

You were much more convincing back when you were saying that if they signed Rodgers you were done with the organization.

It would be an incredibly stupid move, I mean really beyond belief, but I wouldn't put anything past these guys.