Where is the love for what Schen has done?

[LennG]

You know, I come to this board every day, and it seems every day I see threads knocking Schoen for whatever reason. Some posters seem to scour the internet to find things that are wrong with what he has done. Granted, he started out slow, but even at the end of last year, I defended him because of last year's draft and him getting to know the job. No one walks into a job they have never done and hit the ground running. As of now, Schoen really needs to get an A+ for what he has accomplished in FA. We went from a no QB team to a 2 QB team, both of whom bring good possibilities for our team, and he did NOT break the bank.
 Now we are in position, because of Schoen, to draft a great player at 3, or trade down to accumulate more picks. I know we still have a very long way to go to even become respectable, but as of now, we are definitely on the right path.

Let's hope he can hit another Home Run in this year's draft, and he could be GM of the year. It's easy to continually knock our leaders, it's harder t 6o admit they might have been wrong about him. 

[T200]

I've been one of the more consistent supporters of Schoen. That doesn't mean that I like all of his moves. I still support him but any love I show him for his moves are conditional at this point. I need to see how they turn out before I offer any praise.

See me in October.

[gregf]

I agree Lenn.  Last draft and current FA has me feeling good. Let's hope we have finally turned this oil tanker around!

[MrGap92]

You know, I come to this board every day, and it seems every day I see threads knocking Schoen for whatever reason. Some posters seem to scour the internet to find things that are wrong with what he has done. Granted, he started out slow, but even at the end of last year, I defended him because of last year's draft and him getting to know the job. No one walks into a job they have never done and hit the ground running. As of now, Schoen really needs to get an A+ for what he has accomplished in FA. We went from a no QB team to a 2 QB team, both of whom bring good possibilities for our team, and he did NOT break the bank.
 Now we are in position, because of Schoen, to draft a great player at 3, or trade down to accumulate more picks. I know we still have a very long way to go to even become respectable, but as of now, we are definitely on the right path.

Let's hope he can hit another Home Run in this year's draft, and he could be GM of the year. It's easy to continually knock our leaders, it's harder t 6o admit they might have been wrong about him. 

I very much appreciate this topic.

I still see posts, of people calling for his job to this very day, refusing to acknowledge this.

His offseason, is not one you typically see of someone who has his job on the line, no desperate moves, upgrades at quite a few places, and setup perfectly for the draft.

If we have another 2024 draft, IF, then this team is going to be a potential WC team again.

[SlotCorner]

If nothing else, we're not in Pittsburgh's shoes who have to hope Rodgers' cave paintings don't tell him to retire. He can basically ask for the moon from them now.

[katkavage]

If nothing else, we're not in Pittsburgh's shoes who have to hope Rodgers' cave paintings don't tell him to retire. He can basically ask for the moon from them now.

You mean the organization that hasn't had a losing year in almost two decades???

[MightyGiants]

@LennG I "Some posters seem to scour the internet to find things that are wrong with what he has done"

I agree with most of what you said.  I would have preferred Rodgers (at least on the field).  However, I also appreciate that from Rodger's perspective, the Giants were a terrible fit.

Schoen has set up the Giants about as well as he could this offseason (without mortgaging the future).  Now we need to see how he does in the draft.

Have to appreciate them taking action, instead of letting other players and teams deciding their fate for them.

Anyone can say what they want, but Schoen has had a solid offseason, importantly, one that does not scream desperation. This team "should" be much more competitive this year, while draft plans should not change too much. He did not mortgage the future at all.

Still more pieces, a better RG would have been nice, still can happen in draft. But this roster is in much better shape compared to pre-FA.

I think Wilson is a better fit than Rodgers also, so I am glad they got who they decided to go with instead of waiting it out, potentially running out of fallback options or having their hand forced.

Andrew,

I like how Schoen is playing in the off-season. With these two signings, the pressure is off in terms of forcing a QB at three.  It remains to be seen if Schoen will play the draft correctly, but at least now he has the ability to do so.

[Doc16LT56]

It's amazing to me how much stock people put into off-season moves. Every off-season I'm told we are killing it and then the team goes on to finish 3rd or 4th in the division (10 of the last 12 seasons). Maybe wait until you see these guys on the field before you start finger wagging. I get the desire to be cheerleaders, but not everyone thinks that way.

[londonblue]

I threw him some roses in the Wilson thread, Lenn 😉 I agree with you.

[MightyGiants]

It's amazing to me how much stock people put into off-season moves. Every off-season I'm told we are killing it and then the team goes on to finish 3rd or 4th in the division (10 of the last 12 seasons). Maybe wait until you see these guys on the field before you start finger wagging. I get the desire to be cheerleaders, but not everyone thinks that way.

I will admit that the league is littered with teams that "win the off-season."

That said, I think it's fair to say that given the Giants situation (admittedly created by Schoen), Schoen has played the offseason about as well as possible. 

Schoen is going into the draft with minimal glaring needs (which cause teams to reach).  That's really the goal of free agency.  Now, it remains to be seen how Schoen does in the draft, but I don't consider it cheerleading to recognize that Schoen did a solid job setting the team up for the draft.

[madbadger]

We are headed into year four of his rebuild and if we hadn't beaten Indy we would have ended up with the first pick overall. I'll praise him when this team actually improves on the field. I like some of his moves and detest others.

[Topshelf21]

Let's hope we have finally turned this oil tanker around!

Very apropos analogy!

Doesn't just stop on a dime and reverse direction.

Will take some time understandably, but show me some wins first and get the team trending in the right direction at least before we anoint him the savior of the team for a couple of FA moves that have yet to see the playing field for big blue.

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[katkavage]

It's amazing to me how much stock people put into off-season moves. Every off-season I'm told we are killing it and then the team goes on to finish 3rd or 4th in the division (10 of the last 12 seasons). Maybe wait until you see these guys on the field before you start finger wagging. I get the desire to be cheerleaders, but not everyone thinks that way.

More objective minds might not agree that Schoen is killing it this off season. Signing a journeyman QB and then a starter with very diminished skills does not give me much optimism for the future. But I will agree wholeheartedly that those two are light years better than what the Giants had at QB. What does that tell you about the Giants?? No, let's have the discussion about Schoen around mid-season and hope his team can win five games.

[Doc16LT56]

I will admit that the league is littered with teams that "win the off-season."

That said, I think it's fair to say that given the Giants situation (admittedly created by Schoen), Schoen has played the offseason about as well as possible. 

Schoen is going into the draft with minimal glaring needs (which cause teams to reach).  That's really the goal of free agency.  Now, it remains to be seen how Schoen does in the draft, but I don't consider it cheerleading to recognize that Schoen did a solid job setting the team up for the draft.

I think your post is fair. I don't think the premise of the thread is fair. Why should anyone give this organization the benefit of the doubt before they prove it on the field? If people choose to do that, that is fine for them, but that's not what this thread was meant to accomplish from what I can tell.

[MightyGiants]

I think your post is fair. I don't think the premise of the thread is fair. Why should anyone give this organization the benefit of the doubt before they prove it on the field? If people choose to do that, that is fine for them, but that's not what this thread was meant to accomplish from what I can tell.

I completely agree