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My New Favorite Mid-Round Draft RB

Started by Philosophers, March 28, 2025, 11:33:58 AM

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Jolly Blue Giant

I think the sleeper pick of the draft is LeQuint Allen, RB from Syracuse. Early on, Mel Kiper had his listed as the 3rd best RB, and several sources had him no.2. Then, over the next month, he dropped and dropped and dropped...or, others rose and rose and rose. Whatever the case, he's the same guy going into the draft as he was at the end of the season, and because he has dropped, he will be a steal for some team in the later rounds. I suspect he'll be drafted higher than the draftee consensus among talking heads and fans

Without a doubt, he is the best pass catching RB in the draft - bar none. Sure hands and he doesn't turn the ball over. Crafty, slippery, tough as nails, and turns a crap situation into a winning driver or TD. I've watched pretty much every one of his games that was televised for the last two years, and he just rises to the occasion and gets whatever needs to be done to win a game. He is commonly compared to a bigger, faster, Tyrone Tracy because of his route running and pass catching ability as a RB

A Denver Bronco's report: https://www.milehighreport.com/2025/3/27/24391701/nfl-draft-profile-syracuse-running-back-lequint-allen

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Stringer Bell

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 28, 2025, 03:08:48 PMIf Lombardi is as bad as you claim, why did the greatest head coach of all time, Bill Belichick, tap him to be his GM at NC State?

I don't claim anything. I gave you facts. Like Parcells said, you are what your record is. And Lombardi's record stinks.

MightyGiants

Quote from: Stringer Bell on March 28, 2025, 05:27:07 PMI don't claim anything. I gave you facts. Like Parcells said, you are what your record is. And Lombardi's record stinks.


That's a lot of judgment for a single season
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Stringer Bell

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 28, 2025, 06:05:01 PMThat's a lot of judgment for a single season

He was a director of player personnel or senior personnel executive for 15 years in the NFL. and his teams were well below .500 over that period. In addition to his 4-12 record as a GM, it's a judgment rooted in facts.

nb587

Just looked up Lombardi in Wilkapedia.  He's 65 year old and was a GM for 1 year with the Browns.  It's not like he had a long successful career as a GM.  Second, everyone knows that Belichick runs his operation.  Highly likely that Lombardi does exactly what he's told which is very different than what pro GMs di.  Last, I used to listen to his podcast and thought he usually made sense even with respect to criticism of the Giants.  But, I came away thinking that Lombardi, as does Louis Riddivk, will criticize Schoen rightly and wrongly, but never bring up Mara which tells  me something.  Schoen had a what looks like a good draft last year and what looks like a good free agent period. I'm hopeful going forward if Mara can stay out of the way

MightyGiants

Quote from: Stringer Bell on March 28, 2025, 06:12:41 PMHe was a director of player personnel or senior personnel executive for 15 years in the NFL. and his teams were well below .500 over that period. In addition to his 4-12 record as a GM, it's a judgment rooted in facts.
Quote from: nb587 on March 28, 2025, 06:15:13 PMJust looked up Lombardi in Wilkapedia.  He's 65 year old and was a GM for 1 year with the Browns.  It's not like he had a long successful career as a GM.  Second, everyone knows that Belichick runs his operation.  Highly likely that Lombardi does exactly what he's told which is very different than what pro GMs di.  Last, I used to listen to his podcast and thought he usually made sense even with respect to criticism of the Giants.  But, I came away thinking that Lombardi, as does Louis Riddivk, will criticize Schoen rightly and wrongly, but never bring up Mara which tells  me something.  Schoen had a what looks like a good draft last year and what looks like a good free agent period. I'm hopeful going forward if Mara can stay out of the way


Lombardi learned football from Bill Walsh, Al Davis, and Bill Belichick.


I think he's worth listening to
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Stringer Bell

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 28, 2025, 06:25:32 PMLombardi learned football from Bill Walsh, Al Davis, and Bill Belichick.


I think he's worth listening to

That's great. Listen to him all you want.

In your original post that I responded to, you compared Lombardi's team-building philosophies with Schoen. And my comment was simply that Lombardi's philosophy amounted to a terrible record, just like Schoen's.

Not sure why you take such an issue with that.

MightyGiants

Quote from: Stringer Bell on March 28, 2025, 06:34:36 PMThat's great. Listen to him all you want.

In your original post that I responded to, you compared Lombardi's team-building philosophies with Schoen. And my comment was simply that Lombardi's philosophy amounted to a terrible record, just like Schoen's.

Not sure why you take such an issue with that.

The Giants, who Mike often cites using the philosophy, won two Super Bowls (under Parcells and Young) using the philosophy you think is flawed because Mike had one losing season.   Also he learned this from guys like Walsh and Belichick.   How are their records???
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Rosehill Jimmy

Quote from: Philosophers on March 28, 2025, 03:55:54 PMRich's point is that you dont ask each individual coach but rather get a general direction from a coherent strategy determined by the coaches.

Ok. What evidence is there that Schoen/ Daboll aren't operating that way?
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bamagiantfan

I think we forget Dante Miller is still here. His speed was the talk of camp last season and the Giants kept him all year on the PS after not playing football for 18 months due to an NCAA mix up that made him ineligible for the 2024 draft. Assuming he added some weight during the year, as most RBs do their rookie season, he could find his way onto the roster as a backup if he can contribute on special teams. Short, but not small (5'9", 200lbs) with good hands, and according to the reports from camp last season "the fastest player who has ever been here."
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MrGap92

Quote from: Brooklyn Dave on Today at 03:27:48 AMWhat about Cam Skatebo ?

Depends if he is available on Day 3

I would rather a bigger back to pair with Tracy, but I would be perfectly fine if they drafted him on Day 3, he may go higher though.

Philosophers

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Bhayshul Tuten is more explosive than any of the mid-round RB picks being talked about.  4.3 speed, more runs of greater than 10 yards (I think), great contact balance, plays for Virginia Tech which tends to produce hard nosed players.

NFL scouts are saying Tuten is closest to Jahmyr Gibbs of any of this NFL Draft's running back class.  We can use that type of player.