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My New Favorite Mid-Round Draft RB

Started by Philosophers, March 28, 2025, 11:33:58 AM

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Philosophers

I've been watching Bhayshul Tuten, the VT running back,  He has a history of fumbling but he runs a 4.32x 40 and his contact balance is the best I have seen in years.  He does not fall to the ground after he gets hit.  He manages to stay on his feet.  Home run threat for sure.  He runs hard.

MightyGiants

Quote from: Philosophers on March 28, 2025, 11:33:58 AMI've been watching Bhayshul Tuten, the VT running back,  He has a history of fumbling but he runs a 4.32x 40 and his contact balance is the best I have seen in years.  He does not fall to the ground after he gets hit.  He manages to stay on his feet.  Home run threat for sure.  He runs hard.

I would like NYG to add a running back in this draft.  Tracy is good, but he needs another RB to pair with.  My preference is a bigger back who could also handle short yardage duty.

How big is Tuten?
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MrGap92

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 28, 2025, 11:39:54 AMI would like NYG to add a running back in this draft.  Tracy is good, but he needs another RB to pair with.  My preference is a bigger back who could also handle short yardage duty.

How big is Tuten?

Average size, 5"11 209

Philosophers

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 28, 2025, 11:39:54 AMI would like NYG to add a running back in this draft.  Tracy is good, but he needs another RB to pair with.  My preference is a bigger back who could also handle short yardage duty.

How big is Tuten?

He's short at under 5'10 and weighs about 210.  He's got really strong lower body which keeps him from falling to the ground.  He ran the 40 faster than Barkley and Gibbs.  I see him as more of an Achane type runner.  Giants need more explosiveness on O.

Rosehill Jimmy

Pauline has mentioned him a few times on the Draft Season podcast with Schmeelk
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MrGap92

I'd rather Sanders or Mullins or someone of that mold but he's a good back. Would not be opposed to drafting him.

Philosophers

I would love to see Giants field a starting unit of skill players who are generally under 4.4x guys.  Imagine Nabers, Hunter, Tai Felton, and a RB like Tuten.

MightyGiants

Quote from: Philosophers on March 28, 2025, 12:56:14 PMI would love to see Giants field a starting unit of skill players who are generally under 4.4x guys.  Imagine Nabers, Hunter, Tai Felton, and a RB like Tuten.

This is the way guys like former GM Mike Lombardi preaches how you build a team.  You envision what you want your team to be.

Joe Schoen, on the other hand, asks his coaches what sort of player they want him to draft.
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DaveBrown74

I agree with you guys about adding another RB in this draft. Something like the 4th round makes sense. Having two solid RBs on rookie contracts is appealing to me.

Philosophers

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 28, 2025, 12:58:05 PMThis is the way guys like former GM Mike Lombardi preaches how you build a team.  You envision what you want your team to be.

Joe Schoen, on the other hand, asks his coaches what sort of player they want him to draft.

Exactly.  Asking coaches what each wants gets you ill fitting pieces to a puzzle.

Design it then go get the pieces.

nb587

I know that fumbling can be fixed but with some guys, it never gets fixed.  I would have  a problem drafting an RB who has a history of fumbling especially in a year where there supposedly lots of good RB prospects and its not a critical need.

Stringer Bell

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 28, 2025, 12:58:05 PMThis is the way guys like former GM Mike Lombardi preaches how you build a team.  You envision what you want your team to be.

Joe Schoen, on the other hand, asks his coaches what sort of player they want him to draft.

In his 1 year as a GM, Lombardi had a 4-12 record. In his many years as a pro personnel director, his teams are well below .500.

Schoen is no model GM, that's for sure. But neither is Lombardi.

MightyGiants

Quote from: Stringer Bell on March 28, 2025, 03:05:15 PMIn his 1 year as a GM, Lombardi had a 4-12 record. In his many years as a pro personnel director, his teams are well below .500.

Schoen is no model GM, that's for sure. But neither is Lombardi.

If Lombardi is as bad as you claim, why did the greatest head coach of all time, Bill Belichick, tap him to be his GM at NC State?
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Rosehill Jimmy

Coaches have designed schemes that work best when performed by players that have the required skill sets.  So what is wrong with a coach who, for example, utilizes the RB in his passing attack, asking the scouts to look with one with good hands?  Wasn't it Parcells who famously said if you want me to cook the meal you should let me buy the groceries?
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Philosophers

Quote from: Rosehill Jimmy on March 28, 2025, 03:27:05 PMCoaches have designed schemes that work best when performed by players that have the required skill sets.  So what is wrong with a coach who, for example, utilizes the RB in his passing attack, asking the scouts to look with one with good hands?  Wasn't it Parcells who famously said if you want me to cook the meal you should let me buy the groceries?

Rich's point is that you dont ask each individual coach but rather get a general direction from a coherent strategy determined by the coaches.