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Quote from: AZGiantFan on Today at 11:06:21 AMIt's not a question of capitulation.  I'm not even a big Jones supporter.  What I am is an opponent of putting all of the blame for being disappointed with the regime for the the last 6, hell 10, years on his his shoulders and the ridiculousness of calling the sea of incompetence he's has to swim in excuses.  There is a difference between excuses and explanations.

Actually there are no excuses for the 30th ranked Defense, A failed Oline since 2013 and stupid GM decisions like drafting a RB with the second pick of the draft. How about an involved owner? The difference here is that these Jones lovers take his criticisms personally for some reason. Sometimes ya just gotta admit you were wrong. Mark my words, Jones will win games as I always said he could and be a better Regular season QB than Eli, and then choke in the playoffs.

Quote from: Painter on Today at 10:47:41 AMA savvy analysis and questioning, Ed. In any event, we should expect to see a different approach to Defense from Shane Bowen who, while more Zone-orientated on the back end, has had much more success against the run than did Wink. Still, as you suggest, it can be as much a question of personnel as of positioning.

It may be a while before we get an answer in that regard, but it will still be time better spent wondering about Burns and Thibodeaux than it is for those among us who seem unable to stop hating on Daniel Jones.

Cheers!

 

And Ojulari. The other hated Player that everyone has given up on. Of course it's not hate. Only the whatabouts call it hate. I call it being realistic.

Quote from: AZGiantFan on Today at 10:44:32 AMMore like another year for the detractors to ignore the offensive context in which DJ has had to operate in for his whole career.

Maybe you haven't capitulated but I'm done with all the excuses. I supported his draft pick because he was the best QB to choose from. 2 years later it was obvious what we had, 6 years later I see him here the next two years or more. He's going to need a top-ten Oline to thrive here. Otherwise, it's dink and dunk, dink and dunk... freeze and duck, freeze and duck. I'm very disappointed in this regime right now. Maybe after a few wins, I'll be in a better mood. Unless of course, the schedule is a 2023 killer to start the season, the oline fails, he get injured through no fault of the Oline and the Defense fails to defend. Did I miss anything?   

I heard the same comments about Russell Wilson when some of you guys wanted the Giants to bring him here years ago. I said he was finished. Goff is playing behind one of the best offensive Lines in the league. Daniel Jones would thrive there too. He will win games and choke in the playoffs. His story has been rit and read.

Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 08:46:33 AMPFF tends to be right more than it's wrong.   PFF is not perfect, but it's a reasonable measure of player performance (or at least a good supplement).  It's also helpful for positions where there are few quality stats.

Ranking an Offensive Line before the season is ridiculous. Especially since this Giants line has at least two players who have never played together, the sophomore season for the center, and undecided on who will be at RT. They're doing the PFF grades and coming up with an average. Let's see how this Unit plays together first. Although, I'm not personally satisfied that they didn't draft a Guard this year. Until they finally fix that line, Daniel Jones will not thrive. I doubt Lock would too. They didn't take a chance on finding an elite QB because they believed in Jones. Let's hope this Unit jells. Either way, Jones is destined to be here in 2025.   

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Why didn't I get this through process of elimination? I kept changing one box.

https://pff.com/news/nfl-strongest-weakest-position-groups-free-agency-2024-nfl-draft?

Good news for DJ. Another year of slack.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on May 13, 2024, 06:10:43 PMCan't argue your point, but this is a team that has been basically a doormat for decades. They finally have a successful year, and they're supposed to let the QB go? They weren't in a position to draft a QB. If you let Goff walk what do you do? Pay Cousins similar money?

I'm with you on the broad point of not ever paying elite QB money to a non-elite QB, but when you look at this organization and their long run history it's hard to kill them too badly for this.

If you want to say they never should have gotten rid of Stafford, fair enough, but now that they were in this situation what should they have done? If you don't pay Goff, who is your QB in 2024?

They chased him until he caught them. That contract was way over his market value. Which team would have paid him that stupid money. Same with Jones, over rating their own players. Goff doesn't have the body of work Cousins has, and he was stupidly overpaid too.

Too many years of failed draft stock caused this. Too many teams giving up on their first round picks instead of developing them. The mentality of starting a first round pick year one has killed careers.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on May 13, 2024, 05:30:55 PMAgreed. I got the first one no problem and then just struggled after that. I agree that we sometimes differ in which ones we find easy versus hard.

One of the very few times I got Purple first. I'm basking in my glory all day. 😆

The Detroit Franchise can't seem to get it all together. Stupid contract for a journeyman QB who will never get them to the trophy. They would have been much better off building a team around Matt Stafford.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on May 13, 2024, 05:04:06 PMJust didn't have it today.

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Quote from: uconnjack8 on May 13, 2024, 02:24:21 PMLarry,

That's one of the reasons I wish they would have graded the front 7 as a group and not had Burns and Thibodeaux as OLBs.  Seems like they used "base" defense lineups to grade this even though teams are in "base" less than 30% of the time. 

I all comes down to positional responsibilities. The 3/4 Mike has more coverage responsibilities and the 3/4 Edge do not. That's why I separate the LB's from the DLine. I am curious if Thibs and Burn have the sand in their pants to transition to DE responsibility. If so, the Giants are a 3 Tech away. Simmons would be my Will and McFadden my Sam.

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 13, 2024, 10:33:10 AMI wouldn't argue that you're wrong (I do hope so, but that's hope).  I am somewhat comforted by the idea that Flott will need to beat out Hawkins and McCloud to win that job.

I hope so too.

Flott is 6'0.5. He came out of College at 165 lbs. He's still a lightweight at 175. If Daboll likes him outside, it portends the type of Coverage the new DC will employ. He is not a Press Corner. Unfortunately, he has not improved over the years and is not only a liability in Run Support, he gets manhandled by bigger Receivers. Although he has decent back-peddle and fluid hips, he's not fast and can get faked out by jukes. He has short arms, small hands, a weak Span, and a lousy Vertical. His size was good for the Slot but his weak Run Support was an issue and I remember sitting with Bobby Skinner at Camp discussing the frustration with Flott. Of course, anyone was better than Darnay Holmes. Put him on the outside and he's going to get burned over the top and fall down and play dead at second-level Run Support. Saquon Barkley is licking his chops just thinking about it. Sorry Ric @Jolly Blue Giant, but you and I are going to have to disagree on this one. He's getting bumped by Phillips who will have the same issues but at least he's more physical although a bad tackler. If an aging Adoree was a 7, Flott is a 5.