Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: Philosophers on March 02, 2025, 08:20:42 PMHooker was a system QB as well.  Tennessee WRs run probably the fewest routes in the route tree and most importantly s straight outside the hashmarks.

What I was saying is that the national media never brought up him being a system Qb or Daniels being a system Qb when they were being drafted. The hang up on Hooker and Daniels was really age and that was really the tag line. Dart played in 3 very different systems through high school, and college; the winged T, Air raid, and kiffins offense. He succeeded in all 3 at a high level but because he was in kiffins he's automatically written off.

Nothing happened at the combine to change my opinion that this is a weak QB class that doesn't warrant a high pick - and to me, that includes rounds 1 - 3.

And breaking down team needs, there are 8 teams (including the Giants) that are likely to take a QB. So I'm totally fine with waiting until the 4th round to grab someone. We know Ward, Sanders, Dart, Milroe, and Ewers will be gone. But that means one of Shough / McCord / Howard will very likely be available at the top of the 4th.

I'd much rather have Hunter and pair one of those guys with Russ or Mariota and then take a QB in round 1 next year vs. waste a high pick on a mid guy like Sanders, miss out on Hunter, and then not take someone in a much better class next year.

One more log on the fire.

https://x.com/joshnorris/status/1896711370051387498?s=46&t=4x-JXwsXYehIZ1h3v6r-zQ

Quote from: Jclayton92 on March 02, 2025, 09:27:41 PMWhat I was saying is that the national media never brought up him being a system Qb or Daniels being a system Qb when they were being drafted. The hang up on Hooker and Daniels was really age and that was really the tag line. Dart played in 3 very different systems through high school, and college; the winged T, Air raid, and kiffins offense. He succeeded in all 3 at a high level but because he was in kiffins he's automatically written off.

I remember specifically the media talking about Heupel's offense being a one read throw outside the hashmarks system.

Look at the NFL success of Nabers and Brian Thomas out of LSU versus Jalin Hyatt and Cedric Tillman from Temnessee.  As far as pure physical skills and talent, I dont think the Tennessee pair are much different than the LSU pair however on route running, scheme knowledge, etc., the Tennessee pair do not come close to the LSU pair which is why one pair has been successful to date in the NFL and the other has been much less successful.

Daniels was not the system QB you make him out to be.

https://x.com/SmartfootbalI/status/1896645690920681545

Quote from: madbadger on March 04, 2025, 07:37:33 AMOne more log on the fire.

https://x.com/joshnorris/status/1896711370051387498?s=46&t=4x-JXwsXYehIZ1h3v6r-zQ

This is not the sort of information you want to hear for a guy with concerns due to his father and the sort of high PR environment.   You wanted to hear he was engaged regardless if he believes another team would draft him.

Reacting To Jaxson Dart's BEST Moments From The NFL COMBINE (by former NFL QB)

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 04, 2025, 08:49:29 AMThis is not the sort of information you want to hear for a guy with concerns due to his father and the sort of high PR environment.  You wanted to hear he was engaged regardless if he believes another team would draft him.

Watching him get interviewed at the combine by Stacey Dales, his personality is for lack of better words, Chill, lighthearted, somewhat Glib. Big smile all the time and just a happy kid. He almost seemed like he had just smoked a joint, and his teammate Horn came off the same way. This is not a serious, tightly wrapped person. It's not necessarily a negative thing.

https://x.com/SkoBuffsGoBuffs/status/1895991563349901315?

The former NFL QB breaks down the following QBs (roughly 12 minute videos on each)

Ward
Sanders
Dart
McCord
Howard
Milroe

https://www.youtube.com/@KurtBenkert/videos

https://x.com/nickfalato/status/1896928338050220084

Quote from: Ed Vette on March 04, 2025, 09:10:35 AMWatching him get interviewed at the combine by Stacey Dales, his personality is for lack of better words, Chill, lighthearted, somewhat Glib. Big smile all the time and just a happy kid. He almost seemed like he had just smoked a joint, and his teammate Horn came off the same way. This is not a serious, tightly wrapped person. It's not necessarily a negative thing.

https://x.com/SkoBuffsGoBuffs/status/1895991563349901315?

I think his personality would mesh well with the offense which is full of young guys.  Nabers appears to already have a nice relationship with him.  They could use a little moxy from the QB position for a change.  If he's the guy that the team deems the best fit I'm fine with it.  I personally think Ward and Dart from a skillset standpoint are both better, and if the rumors of the Giants trying to move up to #1 are true they at the very least agree about Ward. But if they don't move up and just take Sanders at 3 then they roll with Sanders.  No matter who they pick he's likely to be an upgrade over what they've been dealing with the better part of the last decade.

https://x.com/nickfalato/status/1896931998071161324

In a likely preview of the sort of drama that will follow Sanders, Josina Anderson rises up in a strong defense of the Colorada passer



JosinaAnderson
@JosinaAnderson
I am disappointed to hear that a quarterbacks coach from a team drafting in the top 7 referred to Shedeur Sanders as coming off "brash" and "arrogant" in his team interview and making his assessment known to a number of people, per source. I'm purposely not naming the team, as not to directly call the team out. I'm just sharing that this coach's personal assessment is the direct opposite from how Sanders came across to many reporters in his press conference with the media at the Combine. Sanders appeared to go out of his way to acknowledge multiple media members, regardless if they were recognizable or not. He seemed cordial, polite, witty, thoughtful along with being confident (as many athletes are). Alternately, these observations were distinctly different from how another QB prospect came off to some in the media last year in Indy.

According to league sources, said QB coach seems to have issue with "the culture" of athletes who have broad fame and financial success before entering the NFL, and in their* opinions, appears to them to have a problem certain athletes—I'll leave it at that.

This is how pre-Draft evaluations can get jacked because of evaluators who don't seemingly possess the discernment to detect intangible traits that are connected to the will and drive to win without being a stat, or delineated in an analytics report.

He's literally Deion Sanders' son, and despite growing up different from most, seemed fairly grounded.

Hopefully any potential biases towards "the culture" are being checked at the door, as not to unduly impact stock & business. The modern day college athelete is evolving, as is the scale of business and opportunities surrounding them before entering professional leagues.

Adaption sounds necessary, and not just for Sanders.
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The coach is also not in favor of getting him. That is what prompted my post, because there are other folks in the building who vehemently disagree with that assessment. The comments (all of which I did not report) were over the top. Even beyond football, Sanders is obviously a marketing star as well.

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https://x.com/JosinaAnderson/status/1896661871090077936

I have noticed NYG employee Madeline Burks has been reposting a lot of pro-Sanders propaganda


Madelyn Burke reposted
Bucky Brooks
@BuckyBrooks
Thanks for sharing
@JosinaAnderson
 
Every year, we watch a high profile QB deal with this nonsense. No one expects Sanders to be a perfect fit for every coach and organization, but the unnecessary character attacks by NFL personnel and some media members with NFL backgrounds is garbage.. These unflattering and unfounded remarks haunt  prospects beyond the pre-draft process, including tainting a fan base's opinion before the player takes the field for a squad.. it's stupid

https://x.com/BuckyBrooks/status/1896698965120204894

https://x.com/ChaseDaniel/status/1895983014494290087