Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 26, 2025, 11:47:52 AMAlbert Breer
@AlbertBreer
Two realities ...

1) Shedeur Sanders fell out of the first round because of talent and performance.

2) He's still available now because of everything else. At this point of the draft, teams are looking for depth and developmental players. If you're taken in the third round or fourth round or fifth round, you're going to be working in the background.

That would make Shedeur a backup quarterback. Backup QBs need to blend with in the furniture. It's why Tim Tebow and Colin Kaepernick, and even guys like Jay Cutler and Cam Newton had trouble extending their careers—if those guys weren't going to start for you, you'd probably rather just have the anonymous guy who'd support the starter and make ZERO headlines.

Backup quarterback is a different job than starting quarterback, which is why the NFL's collective two-deep isn't just a list of the 64 best QBs on the planet.

Can Shedeur be the developmental guy, who's going to be all-in on his team, and quietly go about his business? Maybe. But he's never had to do that, and the way his pre-draft process has been handled casts a lot of doubt on it.

So I don't know who stops his fall, but I think it'll have to be someone who can draw hard lines with him.

It's a real possibility that he doesn't get drafted. It may be better for him in the long run, because he may be able to carve out a role for a team that wants to develop him after his wings are clipped.

Do you know if he can go back to school?

Quote from: Ed Vette on April 26, 2025, 11:55:15 AMIt's a real possibility that he doesn't get drafted. It may be better for him in the long run, because he may be able to carve out a role for a team that wants to develop him after his wings are clipped.

Do you know if he can go back to school?

With the new college rules, he might be.  I don't really know @Jclayton92 ?



https://x.com/awthentik/status/1916135045187965047

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 26, 2025, 11:57:07 AMWith the new college rules, he might be.  I don't really know @Jclayton92 ?



https://x.com/awthentik/status/1916135045187965047

Can a QB who declared for the draft but goes undrafted go back to college?

Yes, a quarterback (or any player) who declares for the NFL Draft but goes undrafted can return to college football. As long as they withdraw from the draft by the specified deadline, they can maintain their NCAA eligibility and continue playing in college.

It's important for players to familiarize themselves with the NCAA rules and the specific dates for withdrawal, which are typically announced each year.

The deadline for college football players to withdraw from the NFL Draft and retain their eligibility typically falls around a week after the NFL Draft concludes. For example, in recent years, it's been around mid-May. However, these dates can vary annually, so players should check the NCAA's official guidelines or consult with their athletic department for the exact deadlines specific to that year. AI

You know what would really suck? To go back to school for one more year, only to go undrafted a second time. I don't know if they have a "School of Humility", but that'd be a good school. I think the "School of Hard Knocks" teaches a lot of humility

One of my old sayings that I've written in the flap of my Bible and driven it into my kids' heads: "The Road to Wisdom is Paved with Humility"  (and vice versa for that matter, as the two go hand-in-hand)

Quote from: Ed Vette on April 26, 2025, 11:59:51 AMCan a QB who declared for the draft but goes undrafted go back to college?

Yes, a quarterback (or any player) who declares for the NFL Draft but goes undrafted can return to college football. As long as they withdraw from the draft by the specified deadline, they can maintain their NCAA eligibility and continue playing in college.

It's important for players to familiarize themselves with the NCAA rules and the specific dates for withdrawal, which are typically announced each year.

The deadline for college football players to withdraw from the NFL Draft and retain their eligibility typically falls around a week after the NFL Draft concludes. For example, in recent years, it's been around mid-May. However, these dates can vary annually, so players should check the NCAA's official guidelines or consult with their athletic department for the exact deadlines specific to that year. AI

Typically they forfeit the eligibility when they declare or at least they used to.

With his NIL money buys himself a $400,000 Rolls Royce.

Father talks too much so looks like that would continue once he gets on a team.

Has no discernible elite NFL skill

If true he did not come into Giants private meeting prepared, that info may have been shared among teams.

Teams simply dont want this drama and mediocre talent

So tired of Rich Eisen every 10 minutes bringing it up.

Quote from: Philosophers on April 26, 2025, 01:37:39 PMWith his NIL money buys himself a $400,000 Rolls Royce.

Father talks too much so looks like that would continue once he gets on a team.

Has no discernible elite NFL skill

Teams simply dont want this drama and mediocre talent

The latter point is spot-on, Joe.  If he was an elite talent, teams would be willing to deal with the drama.  However, he's not...he has limited physical skills that limits his ceiling.

Quote from: Ed Vette on April 26, 2025, 08:25:30 AMI think he's a good fit there as a backup who could prove himself as the successor to Geno. If he's coachable. 

That's the 64 million dollar question.  At this point, I think that at this late point (he hasn't been taken and we're up to 143 as of this writing) point I seriously wonder if he'll be drafted at all.

https://x.com/connor_j_hughes/status/1916194038715130323?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 26, 2025, 11:47:52 AMAlbert Breer
@AlbertBreer
Two realities ...

1) Shedeur Sanders fell out of the first round because of talent and performance.

2) He's still available now because of everything else. At this point of the draft, teams are looking for depth and developmental players. If you're taken in the third round or fourth round or fifth round, you're going to be working in the background.

That would make Shedeur a backup quarterback. Backup QBs need to blend with in the furniture. It's why Tim Tebow and Colin Kaepernick, and even guys like Jay Cutler and Cam Newton had trouble extending their careers—if those guys weren't going to start for you, you'd probably rather just have the anonymous guy who'd support the starter and make ZERO headlines.

Backup quarterback is a different job than starting quarterback, which is why the NFL's collective two-deep isn't just a list of the 64 best QBs on the planet.

Can Shedeur be the developmental guy, who's going to be all-in on his team, and quietly go about his business? Maybe. But he's never had to do that, and the way his pre-draft process has been handled casts a lot of doubt on it.

So I don't know who stops his fall, but I think it'll have to be someone who can draw hard lines with him.

This is easily the most insightful post in this thread which puts the entire picture into focus.

But the Browns have ended the controversy just now by trading up to 144 to get him.

Suspense over.

Quote from: kartanoman on April 26, 2025, 02:19:09 PMThis is easily the most insightful post in this thread which puts the entire picture into focus.

But the Browns have ended the controversy just now by trading up to 144 to get him.

Suspense over.

Yet they drafted Gabriel at the end of round 3.  Seems like the Browns are just wasting picks at this point

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 26, 2025, 02:15:06 PMhttps://x.com/connor_j_hughes/status/1916194038715130323?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ

Pick 144.  On the plus side, the Browns traded up for him, guffaw.

As far as I can tell watching TV, he's not in the Green Room. He probably hates the Green Room

Quote from: AZGiantFan on April 26, 2025, 02:14:01 PMThat's the 64 million dollar question.  At this point, I think that at this late point (he hasn't been taken and we're up to 143 as of this writing) point I seriously wonder if he'll be drafted at all.

Well that didn't age well.

https://x.com/RalphVacchiano/status/1916195674174914863