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I must say I loved Bryce Young in college.  She feel like Carolina failed Young not vice versa.  Can Daboll resurrect Young?  Is it a chance to get a very young QB relatively cheaply then use next year's 1st and 2nd round picks to keep building the team?

Is he completely broken?

No.  What do we gain?  He's clearly not a plus QB; I'd rather have the draft pick.  If you want him, I have a feeling you can get him in the open market next year. 

Quote from: Philosophers on September 17, 2024, 06:56:32 PMI must say I loved Bryce Young in college.  She feel like Carolina failed Young not vice versa.  Can Daboll resurrect Young?  Is it a chance to get a very young QB relatively cheaply then use next year's 1st and 2nd round picks to keep building the team?

Is he completely broken?

If it was for a 5/6th and Carolina was responsible for most of his money. Use him as a bridge or backup.

https://overthecap.com/player/bryce-young/10825

If I am reading/interpreting this correctly, he would be ~$16MM against the Giants cap in 2025 and just under $6MM in 2026.  I think Carolina eats the signing bonus money.

So, no. 

The other thing is, I could see them being in another Jones pickle.  Trade for Young.  After next season, not 100% sold on him so don't exercise the 5th year option.  He has a decent year in year 4 and now you have to sign him or start over.

Quote from: kingm56 on September 17, 2024, 07:04:53 PMNo.  What do we gain?  He's clearly not a plus QB; I'd rather have the draft pick.  If you want him, I have a feeling you can get him in the open market next year. 

How much of it is him versus multiple coaching staffs/coaches?

I loved him in college and more so than QB coming out in 2025.

People are acting like the Panthers have nothing in the cupboard. There are a handful of skills I'd love to have on the Giants, here's a few of their guys.

RB Miles Sanders, Chubba Hubbard the Auburn back

WR Jonathon Mingo
Xavier Leggette
Diontae Johnson
Adam Theilen

They don't have world beaters but they have talent.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on September 17, 2024, 10:06:47 PMPeople are acting like the Panthers have nothing in the cupboard. There are a handful of skills I'd love to have on the Giants, here's a few of their guys.

RB Miles Sanders, Chubba Hubbard the Auburn back

WR Jonathon Mingo
Xavier Leggette
Diontae Johnson
Adam Theilen

They don't have world beaters but they have talent.

A lot of their talent has not shined yet at the NFL level - Mingo as such which is why they went after Leggette.

They have problems in OL.

I think coaching has been his biggest problem.

I have no interest in giving away draft assets for failed QBs.

BTW before anyone blames coaching for Young's struggles, keep in mind Dave Canales is the guy who revitalized Geno Smith's and Baker Mayfield's careers. That guy knows what he is doing when it comes to  helping struggling QBs. He worked with Young all offseason and in these last two games. And here we are.

Hold that question to you see how his replacement does.  I am not big fan of 5'10" QBs.  Yes there are a few guys who have broken the mold and succeeded, but its the exception, not the rule. 

QBs coming from programs where there team had a huge talent advantage in 98% of their games are tough to judge sometimes. 

The Giants are in no position to wait any longer for something good to happen. It's past the time for Schoen/Mara to close the book on Gettlemuck, and to roll the dice in the 2025 Draft. It's at least 50/50 that they won't be any worse off.

Cheers! 

Well..he's been left for dead in Carolina..by an awful organization..worse than Big Blue.

But I've never thought much of him..he's a midget out there. UFL kinda of qb. I'd say no.

Barely 5-10 and 185 pounds. Too small for my liking and I'm guessing the Giants feel the same way.


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I'd trade a 4th or 5th right now for Brissett, and Lock him up as the bridge qb for the next 2 years assuming the patriots slowly work Maye in this year.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on September 18, 2024, 01:10:44 PMI'd trade a 4th or 5th right now for Brissett, and Lock him up as the bridge qb for the next 2 years assuming the patriots slowly work Maye in this year.

Maybe a straight swap - Jones for Brice. Both could benefit from a change in scenery. There's been enough screaming on this board that the Giants need to get a top pick in the draft to get a quality QB. Well, there appears to be one available.

Quote from: bamagiantfan on September 18, 2024, 01:59:36 PMMaybe a straight swap - Jones for Brice. Both could benefit from a change in scenery. There's been enough screaming on this board that the Giants need to get a top pick in the draft to get a quality QB. Well, there appears to be one available.

While I do think that we need a new Qb badly, the more I evaluate the talent for 2025, the more I'm almost assured that we need to skip on one in 2025 and bridge a qb.