Big Blue Huddle

Now we all want to.get rid of Jones but after seeing these rookies this year
Might it better to.keep.jones and have him learn
Or start Tommy devito after game 4
Cut Jones
And have him learn from.tommy devito.for the year

We know what Jones is so the short answer is NO

Get a bridge QB for a few years.

Get your guy in 2025 or 2026

It cannot get any worse. Better to save the cap.

No.

List of just a few FA qbs in 2025 to bridge us until our next guy.

Sam Darnold
Jacoby Brissett
Andy Dalton
Justin Fields
Russell Wilson

And so on.

Darnold and Brissett likely get Minshew money or close to it. Minshew signed a 2 year 25 million dollar deal with the Raiders. 12 million a year for competent qb play is a lot better than 30 million for bad qb play.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on September 18, 2024, 02:00:03 PMNo.

List of just a few FA qbs in 2025 to bridge us until our next guy.

Sam Darnold
Jacoby Brissett
Andy Dalton
Justin Fields
Russell Wilson

And so on.

Darnold and Brissett likely get Minshew money or close to it. Minshew signed a 2 year 25 million dollar deal with the Raiders. 12 million a year for competent qb play is a lot better than 30 million for bad qb play.

Brissett does look pretty good

Quote from: Trench on September 18, 2024, 02:03:48 PMBrissett does look pretty good

Yeah the stats aren't jumping off the charts yet but they don't have to. He is running what they ask of him and winning. The guy has only been on one team for longer than a year, so he's learning new offenses yearly and still thriving.

I was extremely impressed with what Darnold did at the end of his time with the Panthers, to the point I remember myself and @Ed Vette discussing it in a thread and being really impressed when others weren't. He takes a year with the 49ers and pops out with the Vikings thriving.

I mean look what Carr is doing with the Saints, guy puts up good production with the Raiders and still gets shipped out. He is absolutely killing it right now and making 40 million less than Jones.

Mayfield another guy who gets shipped out and is thriving.

What the Giants need right now more than anything is to marry a competent Qb with a good playcaller. We know from his previous stops that Daboll is a good pkaycaller, and so getting him competent play would go a long way and you don't have to spend 60 million a year to get it.

I'd rather have Darnold, or Brissett for 8 million a year right now than Dak, Jones, and a few other Qbs at their price tag.

DJ has a base salary of $30 million next season.  Barring a miracle comeback this season, DJ would need to agree to a massive paycut to stay on the roster.  If DJ were to take a $20 million pay cut (leaving him $10 million) that would be equal to cutting him in terms of cap savings next year. 

Admittedly if he were to go from $30 to $20 and they cut him in 2026 there would be the $11 million dead cap then.  If they cut him next season he is off the books in 2026.  Of course if you cut DJ you would need to replace him (if you envision him being the backup QB) and backups can make up to $10 million.  So it really would be about a wash.

For another $30 million plus the cost of drafting his intended successor. Figure it out!

Cheers!

It's a question that can't be answered yet. Soon, but not yet.

He's leached enough off the franchise. Send him packing at the end of this season.

I'd rather go with Young and have Daboll (if he is still here) work some magic with him.

We already know Jones's limit, and that won't take us very far. It's still the same old, same old, hold onto these guys who some think have that dreaded 'Potential' for a season or t wo too long. When it's time to cut the cord, do it.

Quote from: Hadron on September 18, 2024, 02:39:38 PMHe's leached enough off the franchise. Send him packing at the end of this season.

The man spent most of his NFL career getting the crap beat out of him behind piss-poor O-lines and not quality receiving targets to throw to.   I don't think "leached" is the term I would use to describe that reality.

Get rid of Jones if the cost to do so makes sense.  Draft a QB in 25 or 26 and sign a bridge.  I like Justin Fields the most if he's available.  New regime, new opp.

No way. He would count $41MM against the cap if he is here.  Cut him, $22MM in dead money.  You can find someone better for $19MM as a stop gap while breaking in a rookie.  Or, play DeVito  for $7.50/hr, I mean $915K while breaking in the rookie.

Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 10:19:27 AMThe man spent most of his NFL career getting the crap beat out of him behind piss-poor O-lines and not quality receiving targets to throw to.   I don't think "leached" is the term I would use to describe that reality.

To be fair, he hasn't done his part to learn how to improve either with things within his control. He hasn't made improvements on:

1. Touch passes
2. Audibles
3. Bird dogging WR
4. Throwing balls away
5. Sliding feet first
6. Deep passes
7. Progressions