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Nick McCloud released.

Started by coggs, November 05, 2024, 01:12:44 PM

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Does this mean Greg Stroman inches up the depth chart?

coggs

Quote from: LennG on November 05, 2024, 06:17:49 PMDo you have a link or any proof that this is the case?
I couldn't find it.
Saw it on twitter from a legit Giants source.  Will look for it.

LennG

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Quote from: coggs on November 05, 2024, 09:01:48 PMSaw it on twitter from a legit Giants source.  Will look for it.

Would appreciate that. Just too many false rumors around.
I just never heard of a player being asked to take a pay cut mid season. He has a contract for X dollars. Can they void a contract by releasing someone?
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AZGiantFan

Quote from: LennG on November 05, 2024, 11:30:06 PMWould appreciate that. Just too many false rumors around.
I just never heard of a player being asked to take a pay cut mid season. He has a contract for X dollars. Can they void a contract by releasing someone?

I think it's only for veterans with a certain amount of seniority that the salary becomes guaranteed at the beginning of the year.  But I don't remember the details.
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coggs

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Quote from: LennG on November 05, 2024, 11:30:06 PMWould appreciate that. Just too many false rumors around.
I just never heard of a player being asked to take a pay cut mid season. He has a contract for X dollars. Can they void a contract by releasing someone?
It was non-guaranteed off a free agent tender or something like that.

https://x.com/PLeonardNYDN/status/1853930741643485281

https://x.com/rydunleavy/status/1854011254521635010

https://x.com/TheDougRush/status/1853875709699035255

https://x.com/JordanRaanan/status/1853856934329282670

MightyGiants

I listened to a couple of podcasts this morning.  Most said the Giants released McCloud to free up more cap space.  The team currently has a little over a million dollars left, and that's unlikely to last the season, especially at the rate at which Giants players get injured (the cost of replacements eats up the cap surplus).
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EDjohnst1981

Relative to his salary, he was playing well enough.

I can understand why he didn't want to take a pay cut.

AZGiantFan

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 06, 2024, 09:32:15 AMI listened to a couple of podcasts this morning.  Most said the Giants released McCloud to free up more cap space.  The team currently has a little over a million dollars left, and that's unlikely to last the season, especially at the rate at which Giants players get injured (the cost of replacements eats up the cap surplus).

Trading Slayton would have freed up some CAP space I think.
I'd rather be a disappointed optimist than a vindicated pessimist. 

Not slowing my roll

EDjohnst1981

Quote from: AZGiantFan on November 06, 2024, 02:12:38 PMTrading Slayton would have freed up some CAP space I think.

The wide receiver needy teams went early on their decisions which, I suspect, killed his market 

EDjohnst1981

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on November 06, 2024, 01:04:26 PMRelative to his salary, he was playing well enough.

I can understand why he didn't want to take a pay cut.

Per Duggan at the Athletic, he seemingly doesn't understand the move to free up cap space as they could have restructured Burns to add 250k to his cap hit a year and it "wouldn't cause a ripple"

Moreover, he says " Cutting a player like McCloud over $1 million during the season sends a bad message for a regime that has preached so much about culture and competitiveness."

Both points are very true.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5902065/2024/11/06/new-york-giants-azeez-ojulari-darius-slayton-nfl-trade-deadline/?source=user_shared_article

LennG

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MightyGiants

This should act as a reminder.   Fans often talk about having a player take a pay cut.  You always have to be prepared to cut them if they say no.
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TDToomer

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 06, 2024, 05:13:00 PMThis should act as a reminder.   Fans often talk about having a player take a pay cut.  You always have to be prepared to cut them if they say no.

Yes but it should be done before the season not during. This does not reflect well on the Giants and I'm sure his teammates are pissed.
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Ed Vette

Quote from: TDToomer on November 06, 2024, 09:00:56 PMYes but it should be done before the season not during. This does not reflect well on the Giants and I'm sure his teammates are pissed.
It doesn't sit right with me either. He's a productive player who's key member of the team. I agree it's not good for the locker room.
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MightyGiants

Quote from: TDToomer on November 06, 2024, 09:00:56 PMYes but it should be done before the season not during. This does not reflect well on the Giants and I'm sure his teammates are pissed.

I agree
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