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 Very interesting article in today's Newsday by Tom Rock who says the Giants would be much better off going after a veteran QB and not a rookie.

https://www.newsday.com/sports/columnists/tom-rock/joe-schoen-giants-p1kmqe95

He likens it to the Kerry Collins days when we brought in a veteran and went to the SB soon after.

Lenn I have been saying this for awhile



https://giantsfans.net/message_board/index.php?topic=71272.msg978491#msg978491

Starting caliber vet QBs you can actually win it all with very rarely are available in FA

What they need is both in my opinion, both a rookie, PLUS a solid vet bridge in the mold of a Tyrod Taylor, Andy Dalton, Joe Flacco etc to allow the rookie to learn and develop on the sidelines for at least part of the season.

They need both. The approach should be like Minnesota who drafted McCarthy and signed Darnold. Won't be easy to find that Vet.

Quote from: katkavage on November 13, 2024, 11:50:53 AMThey need both. The approach should be like Minnesota who drafted McCarthy and signed Darnold. Won't be easy to find that Vet.

If JJ is ready, Darnold might be available and he CAN play in the right system.

Quote from: katkavage on November 13, 2024, 11:50:53 AMThey need both. The approach should be like Minnesota who drafted McCarthy and signed Darnold. Won't be easy to find that Vet.

Darnold could well be that guy.  After the season he's having he's going to want a significant pay bump that Minny might not be willing to give him.  And he's going to want to start, which Minny may not be willing to commit to.  And he's a FA.  And he might feel a certain satisfaction in coming home to NY as a vindicated QB. 

Lenn, the time for that was before this season. When a team needs a QB and they are picking in one of the top two spots of the draft and have their choice to develop a Franchise QB, then they must do that. There's a paywall on that Newsday link so I didn't read it but if that's what it was pushing, then no. They will however need a Veteran who can start next season if need be, and mentor the young QB. To mentor and develop, not in place of.

At the end of the season the only QB who may be in the roster is DeVito

The team is going to need two QBs and it makes sense to draft one and sign a veteran to mentor him

For those saying Darnold for next year. couple of questions.

Assuming his play stays relatively where it has been this year and the Vikings let him go:

1) What do you expect it would cost to bring him to the Giants?
2) Are you thinking of a multi-year deal with him?  Or are you thinking of drafting someone as well?
Question 2 should go a ways toward answering question 3:

3) Do you see him as a potential franchise QB with the Giants?  Like a more long term solution. He will be 28 when camp starts next year. 

C'mon! Let's stop dictating, limiting their options to satisfy our own personal conceits. What is needed is a QB who can win more often and with greater consistency than anyone this past decade plus. When, where, and how that happens is at present up to Joe Schoen and the FO even if we think we know better.

And or yeah, Kerry Collins. He got 'em to a Super Bowl game a Quarter Century ago yet he's best remembered around here at the time as the "Deer in the Headlights" 

Cheers!

Marcus Mariotta.

Quote from: Giant Obsession on November 13, 2024, 01:39:28 PMMarcus Mariotta.

I could live with that.

We can get a vet for cheap this offseason. There are a lot of decent guys out there.

Darnold
Fields
Lance
Flacco
Dalton
Winston
Brissett
Garrapolo
Heinicke

And that's not counting backups etc that may be available via trade.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on November 13, 2024, 02:11:57 PMWe can get a vet for cheap this offseason. There are a lot of decent guys out there.

Darnold
Fields
Lance
Flacco
Dalton
Winston
Brissett
Garrapolo
Heinicke

And that's not counting backups etc that may be available via trade.

Why is Lance in this group? He has barely started in 4 years and looked awful when he played including this past Sunday.

Quote from: TDToomer on November 13, 2024, 02:35:18 PMWhy is Lance in this group? He has barely started in 4 years and looked awful when he played including this past Sunday.

Because Lance would be a cheap backup. We are not grabbing a guy to be the future from this group. I'd argue that Lance would be a better backup in our system than Lock currently.