Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: Ed Vette on November 24, 2024, 02:37:24 PMThe turning point was the idiotic decision to go for it on 4th down from their own 36

Another stupid play call.

Devito is playing his 1st game of the year and he is without (2) OL starters. Big difference

Quote from: Ed Vette on November 24, 2024, 02:47:20 PMAnother stupid play call.

They were moving the ball and he calls a wildcat inside the 5

Quote from: Ed Vette on November 24, 2024, 02:47:20 PMAnother stupid play call.

And another turnover ...

And another nail in the head coach's coffin ...

And another nervous meeting between Schoen and Mara trying to explain they haven't lost the team.

Quote from: Ed Vette on November 24, 2024, 02:49:14 PMThey were moving the ball and he calls a wildcat inside the 5

What's the saying, "too clever by half"?

If you've never heard the expression, "outcoached himself," well, that play was the epitome.

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Ugh!

https://x.com/gregp_j/status/1860788724197371958?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 24, 2024, 04:06:28 PMhttps://x.com/gregp_j/status/1860788724197371958?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ

Cool who takes over? The OC who isn't trusted to call plays or the DC whose players have given up and can't tackle?

Ronnie Barnes.

After all he can do  no wrong in Mara's eyes

Just a couple of other points. Why did they wait until the second half to even try and get your best player involved in the game? Nabors is probably our best offensive weapon and as OC you have to figure out ways to get the ball in his hands. He went unnoticed until the start of the second half.

Also, TD is a rookie, starting his first game. On the first play, Tracy runs for 16 yards. So what does Daboll do for most of the 1st half, have TD try and throw the ball and he is consumed. Let him ease into the game, and run the ball as much as you can, just a horrible, horrible game plan. I am not convinced he cannot be a serviceable coach but he simply cannot call plays anymore. He really seems to have no feel for the game as an OC.

Quote from: LennG on November 24, 2024, 06:02:21 PMJust a couple of other points. Why did they wait until the second half to even try and get your best player involved in the game? Nabors is probably our best offensive weapon and as OC you have to figure out ways to get the ball in his hands. He went unnoticed until the start of the second half.

Also, TD is a rookie, starting his first game. On the first play, Tracy runs for 16 yards. So what does Daboll do for most of the 1st half, have TD try and throw the ball and he is consumed. Let him ease into the game, and run the ball as much as you can, just a horrible, horrible game plan. I am not convinced he cannot be a serviceable coach but he simply cannot call plays anymore. He really seems to have no feel for the game as an OC.

Lenn,
Great observations. I hope our hierarchy at least asks the same questions in their assessment

Quote from: LennG on November 24, 2024, 06:02:21 PMJust a couple of other points. Why did they wait until the second half to even try and get your best player involved in the game? Nabors is probably our best offensive weapon and as OC you have to figure out ways to get the ball in his hands. He went unnoticed until the start of the second half.

Also, TD is a rookie, starting his first game. On the first play, Tracy runs for 16 yards. So what does Daboll do for most of the 1st half, have TD try and throw the ball and he is consumed. Let him ease into the game, and run the ball as much as you can, just a horrible, horrible game plan. I am not convinced he cannot be a serviceable coach but he simply cannot call plays anymore. He really seems to have no feel for the game as an OC.

Without an AP QB, Daboll had always been a terrible OC.

Quote from: kingm56 on November 24, 2024, 07:08:04 PMWithout an AP QB, Daboll had always been a terrible OC.

I can go back and look myself because I have before but forgot, but in those stints where he was a terrible OC, did he ever have a QB whom you would call even "decent" or "league-average"? Or who other OCs had materially more success with?

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on November 24, 2024, 07:10:03 PMI can go back and look myself because I have before but forgot, but in those stints where he was a terrible OC, did he ever have a QB whom you would call even "decent" or "league-average"? Or who other OCs had materially more success with?

No, which is why I'm ok if the Giants choose to give him another year with a potential good starting QB. As you stated a few months ago, we know he can be a good OC with a plus QB.