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Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on January 09, 2025, 12:14:48 PMWould be shocked if anyone traded even a 7th for him with that cap hit. But stranger things have happened.

Remember 7 years ago

With an eye on making another move at quarterback, Cleveland acquired veteran Brock Oswelier and a 2018 second-round pick on Thursday in a stunning trade with the Houston Texans, who were looking for a partner to help them get rid of the QB's $16m guaranteed contract.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/mar/09/brock-osweiler-cleveland-browns-houston-texans-trade

Strike one prospect off the list


https://x.com/On3sports/status/1877434008809636051

Quote from: Ed Vette on January 07, 2025, 09:19:09 AMA plethora of options. I like Wilson as a leader and a strong voice. The Steelers may not resign him, but he's resurrected his career there.

I agree that leaving Dart and McCord out of the mix may be a mistake. I think they could prove to be better than backups. Whenever I see clear improvement in a short period of time, it raises the ceiling for me.

would still be better than anything we've had for half a decade

Quote from: uconnjack8 on January 07, 2025, 11:49:48 AMThere seems to be some Justin Fields interest in this forum these days.  I have to admit I don't get it.  He is a slow processor and holds on to the ball too long.  I would think if he is the starter next year, Daboll will be out at the end of the year. 

Steelers offense got better once Fields was replaced with Wilson.  He has been in the league for 4 years and has not made any significant progress as a passer.  Can someone give me a reason they like Fields other than physical attributes that they want to see him as a Giant?  Is there some part of being a QB that he is showing improvement on ?

Agreed. he's just a more athletic jones.

https://x.com/corryjoel/status/1877458916604362903

Quote from: MightyGiants on January 09, 2025, 02:47:54 PMStrike one prospect off the list


https://x.com/On3sports/status/1877434008809636051

Is he REALLY a prospect?  I would not want him until day 3.

Quote from: MightyGiants on January 09, 2025, 02:47:54 PMStrike one prospect off the list


https://x.com/On3sports/status/1877434008809636051

As noted, I'm a big Ole Miss booster, and a group of us were notified that today Jan 9th, Jaxson Dart applied for a Waiver to come back one more year even though he's out of eligibility. The vandy kid did it and so he's going to try it. So there's an inside, inside scoop for you.

Justin Fields is not going to be talked about as a future all pro any time soon.

But two important areas he has over DJ:

He keeps his eyes up longer than DJ while scrambling away from pressure.

He's unafraid to throw the ball downfield.

He could develop into a starter BONUS! Or MORE LIKELY he's a decent bridge until we get the franchise QB.


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Quote from: Jclayton92 on January 09, 2025, 09:57:57 PMAs noted, I'm a big Ole Miss booster, and a group of us were notified that today Jan 9th, Jaxson Dart applied for a Waiver to come back one more year even though he's out of eligibility. The vandy kid did it and so he's going to try it. So there's an inside, inside scoop for you.

Sounds like the same thing McCord did.  What are their chances the league will grant their waivers?

Quote from: MightyGiants on January 10, 2025, 09:15:20 AMSounds like the same thing McCord did.  What are their chances the league will grant their waivers?

Pretty high, but it's the same thing that Cam Ward did last year before choosing Miami. It's the new age of leverage, I can go to the NFl and get drafted in the 3rd round and make X or I can come back for a 5th year and you'll pay me how much? The Pavia kid at Vandrbilt has been a senior for the past 2 years and just got granted a waiver to play again next year lol. 

12 of 14 QBs starting in the playoffs this year were 1st round picks. 

The more I am hearing, the less optimistic I am that the Giants will find a franchise QB this offseason.

I guess the only avenue that has a realistic (but less than optimal) chance of acquiring a QB is to trade up (or one falls) and draft Ward or Sanders.   This is a very risky move, as neither seems like an elite QB prospect, meaning their chances of success are probably less than 50/50 and if they fail, they will cost the first pick plus all the trade capital.   To make things worse, the extra draft capital will hurt the overall talent on the team which will reduce the chances of successfully developing a QB.

I am troubled by Mara's comment about getting a QB being a priority, because this doesn't appear to be the year to solve a team's QB problem.

Quote from: MightyGiants on January 10, 2025, 11:07:12 AMThe more I am hearing, the less optimistic I am that the Giants will find a franchise QB this offseason.

I guess the only avenue that has a realistic (but less than optimal) chance of acquiring a QB is to trade up (or one falls) and draft Ward or Sanders.   This is a very risky move, as neither seems like an elite QB prospect, meaning their chances of success are probably less than 50/50 and if they fail, they will cost the first pick plus all the trade capital.   To make things worse, the extra draft capital will hurt the overall talent on the team which will reduce the chances of successfully developing a QB.

I am troubled by Mara's comment about getting a QB being a priority, because this doesn't appear to be the year to solve a team's QB problem.

The whole thing is an absolute xxxx show caused by Mara's indecision and lack of divisiveness. Just understand that yes, they will have to get a QB. They will have to get two. Whether they are good, bad or average, we will find out. And then next year when they play what is, as of now, a brutal schedule, and they are done by Halloween, Mara will have to do what he avoided doing on Monday. My only hope, and really it's a fantasy, is that either Daboll just quits and takes a job at a college knowing he'll be gone next year or Mara finds how Schoen botched the free agency thing so bad he has to fire him in the next week or so. Of course neither will happen, but I can have my fantasies, can't I?

I still think the Giants should take Hunter. Trade back into he first using the second and fourth round pick and pick up Dart. Dart is every bit as good as Ward and Sanders. Honestly I think he is better than Sanders. And yes the Giants should pick up a veteran QB like Cousins someone that can allow Dart to step into the position without rushing him.

Quote from: Giantleap56 on January 10, 2025, 12:24:50 PMI still think the Giants should take Hunter. Trade back into he first using the second and fourth round pick and pick up Dart. Dart is every bit as good as Ward and Sanders. Honestly I think he is better than Sanders. And yes the Giants should pick up a veteran QB like Cousins someone that can allow Dart to step into the position without rushing him.

That's assuming Dart enters the draft.  Jess ( @Jclayton92 ) has reported Dart is having second thoughts and may try and stay in school.