Big Blue Huddle

It's the cards the Giants were dealt, or rather, the world they created for themselves. Last year, picking sixth overall, they passed on Michael Pennix Jr. and JJ McCarthy, because Schoen and Daboll were committed to Jones and believed he was the guy, even after letting Saquon walk. That was a mistake, of course. Now they desperately need a QB and, picking 3rd overall, I have little doubt they'll draft one. Since I expect the Titans to select Ward, and I think the Browns will pick Travis Hunter (who is probably the best overall player in the draft), Sanders figures as the 2nd best QB in the draft and that's who the Giants will go with.   

I think it's possible that if Coach Prime goes to Dallas as HCmight certainly impact where Shedurr winds up. Cleveland? I doubt it. Is it possible in that scenario he falls to the Cowboys? Id be perfectly happy if we just took Travis Hunter if a bridge QB is on board already and draft another one later. Much has to happen first, of course.

Quote from: Brooklyn Dave on January 15, 2025, 05:01:57 AMBob in PA wherever you are , which QB are you touting for the 2025 draft ?

B-Dave: I don't like any of the QB's being talked about for the first round. That doesn't mean I think none will succeed in the NFL. It just means I don't think any are worthy of going in the top half of the first round.

If I had to pick a first-round QB it would be Ward because he has played in several different systems in college, including with at least one bad offensive line, and he found ways to win and hung in there very well. Regardless, if the Giants pick EITHER Ward of Sanders I'll say they overpaid but will be very excited about it (in a good way). They are both good players, just not blue-chip "cant-miss" prospects, IMO.

In any event I am not getting the Lamar Jackson or Jayden Daniels "vibe" from either Sanders or Ward. Daniels was my favorite last year and I was sorry the Redskins jumped up to take him. If he was still there at our pick, I would have been very angry if the Giants passed him up.

Bob

I don't think it is a foregone conclusion the Browns won't go QB.  There is talk that Watson's career could be in jeopardy.  Just not sure what that does to their cap as his contract is structured very whacky.

Dallas will draft Shilo Sanders.

Quote from: coggs on January 15, 2025, 07:57:57 AMI don't think it is a foregone conclusion the Browns won't go QB.  There is talk that Watson's career could be in jeopardy.  Just not sure what that does to their cap as his contract is structured very whacky.

coggs: I agree, and from what I've read it's unlikely he'll even be healthy by September. Bob

Quote from: coggs on January 15, 2025, 07:57:57 AMI don't think it is a foregone conclusion the Browns won't go QB.  There is talk that Watson's career could be in jeopardy.  Just not sure what that does to their cap as his contract is structured very whacky.

Fair point about Watson, but it's very risky for the Browns to draft Shedeur when Watson's future is unclear. Also, I am sure that it has already been conveyed to them that Sanders has no desire to play for that franchise, and the last thing they need is problems with their new first round draft choice and his family. My money says they avoid that headache and just draft Hunter.

Quote from: Bob In PA on January 15, 2025, 06:59:58 AMB-Dave: I don't like any of the QB's being talked about for the first round. That doesn't mean I think none will succeed in the NFL. It just means I don't think any are worthy of going in the top half of the first round.

If I had to pick a first-round QB it would be Ward because he has played in several different systems in college, including with at least one bad offensive line, and he found ways to win and hung in there very well. Regardless, if the Giants pick EITHER Ward of Sanders I'll say they overpaid but will be very excited about it (in a good way). They are both good players, just not blue-chip "cant-miss" prospects, IMO.

In any event I am not getting the Lamar Jackson or Jayden Daniels "vibe" from either Sanders or Ward. Daniels was my favorite last year and I was sorry the Redskins jumped up to take him. If he was still there at our pick, I would have been very angry if the Giants passed him up.

Bob

From what I read Coach MacAdoo loved Patrick Mahomes and tried desperately to convince Dave Gettleman to trade up from 23 to get him. KC did and landed Mahomes at 10 .

I don't think that if Sanders is there at 3 the Giants should draft him . I love Mason Graham and he would be my choice . I would sign a QB in free agency this year , Fields, maybe Brisst, SWentz , and hopefully get someone like Jaxson Dart or Milroe in the secoind roiund or maybe McCord or Howard in the third round .

I would try and sign DL Reed in FA to lessen the need to draft Johnson or Hunter.

Quote from: brownelvis54 on January 16, 2025, 12:05:53 AM

I don't know which way I'm leaning. I'm still very disheartened to hear that Mara is being heavy handed. I just have to wait and see what Schoen ultimately decides to do.

I also don't know why this guy is mentioning where Sanders would have been drafted LAST YEAR as if it's relevant to this year. An additional year gave him and Ward more experience, playing time, and development. I don't know that Sanders needs to be a franchise QB vs a very good starter. That may be a thin line. But not all franchise QBs are picked at the top of the draft. Whoever the pick is at #3 just needs to work out. Period. We can't continue to have first-round misses.