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Quote from: Jclayton92 on January 26, 2025, 03:21:51 PMI don't care what anyone says Barkley wasn't trying to run last year like he has all season with the eagles. He was 100% saving himself for free agency, and that would be cool if he didn't take 11 million from us last year for a nothing burger.

Sure.  Or...you were wrong about him.  Saving himself for free agency, come on man.  Save your angst where it belongs- our pathetic assemblage of offensive line talent over the years.  Outside of injury, this has been what Saquon is since he stepped foot into the league.  What you're seeing this year is what his career in NY SHOULD have been like. 

2 carries now.  2 TDs.  It is what it is.

Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on January 26, 2025, 03:24:54 PMThat is a Ridiculous assertion Clayton!

He was giving it his all here, the difference here is he was running into a brick wall.

How anyone can claim Barkley doesn't want to win is, to be kind disingenuous.

huh? I didn't say he didn't want to win, I simply said he was saving himself for free agency, and the 900 yards he ran for with an average of 3 yards would agree with me. Look I don't blame him, but he hasn't looked like this in years. It happens all the time, nfl guys talk about it on podcasts constantly of guys shutting it down, or saving themselves on a losing team.

Hope everyone is seeing the Oline play of the Commanders. Daniels has all day to throw with no one close to him. Their pass blocking is top notch.

Quote from: PSUBeirut on January 26, 2025, 03:37:32 PMSure.  Or...you were wrong about him.  Saving himself for free agency, come on man.  Save your angst where it belongs- our pathetic assemblage of offensive line talent over the years.  Outside of injury, this has been what Saquon is since he stepped foot into the league.  What you're seeing this year is what his career in NY SHOULD have been like. 

2 carries now.  2 TDs.  It is what it is.

Lol so you think he ran 100% all last year? And what was I wrong about? I said don't sign rbs to second contracts because they never finish them, that and always decline before the end of them. Signing a rb to a huge contract is a final piece for a team, not something a losing team does. Great for Philly but it's not what the Giants needed longterm. That doesn't change whether Barkley is elite or horrible, in the history of RB 2nd contracts its never worked out ever.

If you're not giving it your all, you don't want to win by definition.

He had no blocking here, or does that only apply to QB's?

He's finally got a OLINE to work behind.


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Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on January 26, 2025, 03:42:23 PMIf you're not giving it your all, you don't want to win by definition.

He had no blocking here, or does that only apply to QB's?

He's finally got a OLINE to work behind.


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Then half the league doesn't want to win because it's commonly discussed among the players that they shut it down.

The Eagles are loaded 2 elite wrs, top 10 TE, running qb, and great defense. Is the oline great yes, but so is the talent everywhere which explains why they were cool signing a Rb on a 2nd contract to a huge deal. The Giants aren't in the same boat.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on January 26, 2025, 03:42:19 PMLol so you think he ran 100% all last year? And what was I wrong about? I said don't sign rbs to second contracts because they never finish them, that and always decline before the end of them. Signing a rb to a huge contract is a final piece for a team, not something a losing team does. Great for Philly but it's not what the Giants needed longterm. That doesn't change whether Barkley is elite or horrible, in the history of RB 2nd contracts its never worked out ever.

What were you wrong about?  How about that Saquon was washed up and didn't deserve another contract?  How about that all of his "advanced metrics" indicated he wasn't likely to play well again and that whoever signs him would be vastly overpaying? How about that he wouldn't get the money he was looking for because he was....in decline, I guess? 

Giants and Saquon needed to part ways for lots of reasons- but it is obviously 100% true that one of the reasons was not because his skills were in decline or on track to decline.  It's ok to be wrong sometimes, man.  And you got this one flat-out wrong.  It's ok- you have lots of company on this one. 

The Giants would have been 3-14 with Saquon. He is now in the perfect spot. Great for him. The Giants dysfunction for years never helped him any. And that dysfunction continues. Bottom dwellers of the NFC East for the Foreseeable future.

I don't have a problem with him leaving.

I have a problem with you saying that he didn't give it all here.

Let's not bury the lead.


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Quote from: PSUBeirut on January 26, 2025, 03:50:04 PMWhat were you wrong about?  How about that Saquon was washed up and didn't deserve another contract?  How about that all of his "advanced metrics" indicated he wasn't likely to play well again and that whoever signs him would be vastly overpaying? How about that he wouldn't get the money he was looking for because he was....in decline, I guess? 

Giants and Saquon needed to part ways for lots of reasons- but it is obviously 100% true that one of the reasons was not because his skills were in decline or on track to decline.  It's ok to be wrong sometimes, man.  And you got this one flat-out wrong.  It's ok- you have lots of company on this one. 

I think you're a little too emotionally invested in saquan. He ran for 900 yards last year, his advanced stats were trash the past two years, plus with multiple season ending injuries, he is in decline. 2 things can be right at the same time, he can be both declining and in the perfect situation to thrive short term. No team has ever won a super bowl with an expensive back, no one has ever paid a rb on a 2nd deal and been happy at the end of it. All rbs hit a wall at Barkleys age, so while you can be an ardent defender of Barkley, it was the right call, and him having pro bowl players at every position on offense may have something to do with his success. That and he's still the boom or bust running back he's always been. So if you take the emotion out if it, logically it was the right call by the Giants and he is in decline but I guess we'll have to see if he's the 1st rb ever to finish a high dollar 2nd contract.

 Nice catch and run TD by McLaurin. We have a game now.

Why do officials always help the teams I don't like?

Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on January 26, 2025, 03:35:41 PMHas anyone noticed that Saquon is winning with a pedestrian QB AGAIN?


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I'd take that pedestrian QB in a second. He has intangibles that Jones could only dream about.

C'mon refs.. good lord. Commanders imploding.

Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on January 26, 2025, 03:53:13 PMI don't have a problem with him leaving.

I have a problem with you saying that he didn't give it all here.

Let's not bury the lead.


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There is NO doubt from what I watch that Saquon is running much stronger and harder as an Eagle....with the Giants, I SAW holes but he didn't hit it hard many times in stride. I think it had more to do with his lack of confidence in his oline. But he studder stepped and just ran into back of his linemen a lot ( even when holes were there). Again, this is was what I saw.