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Matthew Stafford

Started by Brooklyn Dave, February 10, 2025, 05:09:22 PM

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londonblue

I still think the most likely scenario is Stafford stays in LA but if we/anyone offer eg $150m base, $115m guaranteed, $80m cash year one plus annual incentives that could add 10% to the contract the Rams might well not want to go there. Something like this (ignoring incentives) is effectively a two year guarantee with a manageable year 3 dead cap penalty to exit:

1 Signing $75m, salary $5m, cap $30m
2.Salary $35m, cap $60m (dead cap $50m)
3. Salary $35m, cap $60m (dead cap $25m)
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MrGap92

Stafford and the Steelers seem like a perfect match.

I can see them making this move, then getting someone like Rourke on Day 3.

They would have someone for now, and can groom someone who you know is gonna get good coaching and within probably the best culture in the league.

MightyGiants

Quote from: MrGap92 on February 24, 2025, 01:45:24 PMStafford and the Steelers seem like a perfect match.

I can see them making this move, then getting someone like Rourke on Day 3.

They would have someone for now, and can groom someone who you know is gonna get good coaching and within probably the best culture in the league.

The only thing that makes Stafford a good match for the Giants is Schoen's desperation
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MrGap92

Quote from: MightyGiants on February 24, 2025, 01:47:16 PMThe only thing that makes Stafford a good match for the Giants is Schoen's desperation

Even then it would be an abomination

DaveBrown74

Quote from: MrGap92 on February 24, 2025, 01:57:40 PMEven then it would be an abomination

The way I view it, that makes it more of an abomination.


4 Aces

The Giants can be interested all they want. They have not shown an ability to get the guys they want and this will likely be no different. They failed to get him at the deadline too. He's probably using them as a bargaining chip.

MightyGiants

The Giants would be fools to acquire a guy who cares far more about money than football


Via Spotrac.com, quarterback Aaron Rodgers has made $381.6 million in his 20-year career. Quarterback Matthew Stafford ranks second on the list, with $364 million in 16 seasons.

Tom Brady is third, with $317.6 million. Matt Ryan lands at fourth, with $306.2 million.

Russell Wilson stands at fifth, with $305.3 million. Kirk Cousins is sixth, at $293.9 million. Both will likely pass Ryan this year. Cousins, given that he's guaranteed to make $27.5 million, will pass Brady, too.

The rest of the top ten are Drew Brees ($273.9 million), Ben Roethlisberger ($266.7 million), Peyton Manning ($247.7 million), and Dak Prescott ($247.6 million).

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/aaron-rodgers-matthew-stafford-look-to-add-to-their-record-career-earnings
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Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
In all likelihood, Matthew Stafford isn't going anywhere. That's the sentiment shared by most. This permission the Rams granted him to talk to others? It's likely nothing more than a means to figure out his value. He and L.A. will agree to a new deal once he does.

Because ... duh. The Rams are a Super Bowl team with Stafford. Stafford's best chance of another ring is with the Rams. Common sense prevails (eventually).

In no world should that stop Joe Schoen from making a call, though. The Giants general manager boasted from the NFL Scouting Combine his infatuation with "big swings" at the quarterback position. There's no bigger this offseason than Stafford.

So if there's a chance to get him, try to get him.

Within reason, that is.

https://x.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1894744730950394048
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Trench

Go get Stafford!...we will make the playoffs with him.

MightyGiants

Quote from: Trench on February 26, 2025, 09:21:33 AMGo get Stafford!...we will make the playoffs with him.

Is the goal to just make the playoffs or to be a Super Bowl-contending team?

At 37 (and with his extensive injury history), how do we know if his performance doesn't fall off a cliff ala Rodgers or Cousins?



That all said, I wouldn't be heartbroken if the Giants gave up a 3rd round pick and some conditional 2026 draft capital.  Still, the critical question that MUST be answered if the Giants were to acquire Stafford is what is their 5-year plan at QB.  That must be answered if the Giants are going to give up draft capital and massive salary cap space for a one or two or possibly no-year answer (I am not convinced the inferior NYG medical staff and the poorer weather will have Stafford staying healthy).
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andrew_nyGiants

Someone help me make sense out of acquiring Stafford. Even if it's giving up very little in terms of draft assets, this front office still has a roster to build for this season and seasons to come.

How can they afford to pay Stafford and build a supporting cast? I just can't see it.
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MightyGiants

Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on February 26, 2025, 10:31:06 AMSomeone help me make sense out of acquiring Stafford. Even if it's giving up very little in terms of draft assets, this front office still has a roster to build for this season and seasons to come.

How can they afford to pay Stafford and build a supporting cast? I just can't see it.

It depends on one's goals.  If the goal is to increase wins this season, at all costs, to save one's job, Stafford makes sense.  If you are talking about building the team the right way for sustained success, acquiring Stafford makes no sense what-so-ever.
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katkavage

No guarantees with Stafford and the Giants inferior ( to the Rams) coaching and overall foundation, that they find much success together.